<p>I know stanford doesn’t, what other schools don’t?</p>
<p>i think umich-anne arbor doesn’t either.</p>
<p>Schools where it’s okay to have a 3.66 or a 2.66 or a 1.66:)</p>
<p>How do schools that do take into account +'s and -'s work, since not all high schools even include them in the first place?</p>
<p>add princeton to that list. i think.</p>
<p>anybody know about Carleton or Grinnell?</p>
<p>I’m sorry, but your post doesn’t really make sense.</p>
<p>All the presigious schools like the Ivies use class rank to calculate academic index, a thing they use to rank applicants’ academic accomplishments.</p>
<p>If you got all a minuses, you probably won’t be ranked extremely high, which will hurt when compared to someone else who has all a’s and has a higher class rank.</p>
<p>So it doesn’t matter whether you get all a’s or a minuses, as long as you have a really good class rank.</p>
<p>my 2 centz</p>
<p>Many many school’s don’t rank, however…</p>
<p>yeah, but they do receive a distribution of grades, so they can figure out pretty easily approximately where you stand in comparison to your peers</p>
<p>Unweighted grades where most of the As fall in non-honors classes. And the distribution doesn’t distinguish between +s and -s. We get a decile/quartile (I forget) and the highest GPA in the class (always a non-honors kid).</p>
<p>ok.</p>
<p>sounds like a REALLY raw deal for the guy who gets all 89’s though lol</p>
<p>if he’d gotten 1 point higher in all his classes he’d have a 4.0!</p>
<p>Our school does it a lot fairer and averages all your class grades together and uses a 100 point scale.</p>
<p>Yeah I’d like that 
I got an 89 in APUSH this year… and a 100 in APEcon. lol.</p>
<p>I didn’t look at my final grades because I knew that it would just make me obsessive compulsive.</p>
<p>I just asked my mom, hey around what number is my gpa, and she said about 91, just like I expected, and I left it at that.</p>
<p>The 50 or so most selective schools don’t look at that number.</p>
<p>Read “Gatekeepers”. The adcom looks at ALL your classes… each one individually, one by one, through your 1st semester Sr. year. The adcom makes some sort of notation, or number, or something about your academic strength. GPA means nothing by itself, and class rank means nothing by itself. They make a qualitative judgement about how YOU did in relation to everyone else in your school, and then decide how hard your school is in comparison to others. It is an art.</p>
<p>At very large publics, the adcom doesn’t have time to do this, but at probably the top 150 LACs, and top 50 National Universities, the entire transcript is scrutinized. They don’t need a GPA. They form an opinion of the entire transcript.</p>
<p>wait…you’re sure about princeton? thought all ivies took them into account</p>
<p>and i’m just worrying about my UW GPA. i’ll still be in the top 10 (which is how my school ranks, by 10’s or something). in which schools would i get a 4.0 and which schools would i get a 3.8 or 3.9 or whatever</p>
<p>Thanks for the helpful info, DunninLA.</p>
<p>Interesting.</p>
<p>To tell you the truth, The ivy league does everything holistically, true some more than others, however they convert everything into their own scale… so no one knows EXACTLY where they stand. GPA alone is not a factor, how hard your classes are, competitiveness of your school, rank (Debatable I suppose), and if your High School is in one of the Ivy’s feeder schools, what teachers you have (Also debatable) =]. So basically don’t worry about it, if you get in, you get in, don’t do something stupid like not applying to an ivy because of some dumb rule.</p>
<p>University of California drops the + and -s.</p>