<p>migrant workers/how they were discriminated against when the u.s. got all that territory in the spanish american war.</p>
<p>ohhh pshhh is that a joke? we should campaign for a shift from race-based AA to economically-based AA.</p>
<p>Im not complaining…but Americans kicked Mexicans out of Texas and the greater territories.</p>
<p>i know this is from a while ago, but i think there are two ways you can be jewish–in the race/People way (ie, ancestors lived in ghettos, you may “look” jewish or have other features, physical or otherwise, passed down to you, etc.) or in the practicing, religious way. so the catholic comparison is not really valid for the first way because our people have been isolated and living in ghettos across (mostly) europe for centuries, and though i realize that in some countries catholics were ostracized, it is different for jews.
many are only the People but not practicing, many are both the People and practicing, and a few, i guess, are practicing but are not the People (converts…i know, kind of a weak point, but still fun to think about for completeness).</p>
<p>I think some of you should really read what you’re posting before you post it. You’re really edging toward the whole unqualified-URMs-are-taking-my-spot mentality, which is not only ridiculous, but incredibly rude as well. To say something like that is to make an attempt to discredit the admission of some truly amazing URM applicants to the top schools. I had a great discussion with my mom a couple of days after I got my acceptance back in December about how I felt like from the minute I stepped on campus, I’d have to prove myself even moreso than the non-URM applicants simply because of my race. Of course, after some mama-wisdom, that all flew out of the window, but still, the idea remains the same.</p>
<p>The Princeton Class of 2009 deserves to be what it is. True, many well-qualified applicants were rejected or waitlisted, but that’s simply because there are too many people for the number of spots P has available. Take the emphasis off the test scores, people, and start placing them on the quality of the application as a whole. You’ll find it makes a world of difference.</p>
<p>phil…i don’t think anyone here has that mentality. it was more about how people tend to forget that asians are discriminated against in general aspects of life and that there are still many asians who need help. it’s frustrating when there are so many asians who are in disadvantaged positions yet they are ignored because of the perception of success among the general asian population. there are many activist groups for blacks, hispanics, even native americans. however, there is a distinct dearth of groups who have the interests of asians in mind. </p>
<p>from personal experience, i find it to be frustrating because asian rights/interests are being pushed aside because we aren’t vocal enough. i’ve certainly experienced my fair share of racial slurs and gestures and i’m sure other asians have as well. however, nothing is done about it. i’m not able to group myself as a minority with the blacks/hispanics/native americans because i’m too white and ‘asians haven’t been discriminated enough in history’ and then i’ve had whites dislike me because i’m not white. </p>
<p>simply, i’d like to figure out where asians belong in this puzzling race picture of america.</p>
<p>I have no problem with the questions you are raising. They’re valid. They make sense. However, that was not the only issue brought up in this thread. I was addressing another underlying issue that I felt compelled to put in my two cents about. I agree, AA is confusing, complex, and probably needs to be tweaked. That is not to say, however, that the issue of “qualification” should come up when a URM is admitted to a top university.</p>
<p>That’s all :)</p>
<p>Oh…okay phil…I see which posts you are answering. I didn’t realize I’d joined in at the tail end of a conversation. 
btw…my powers of observation suck because only just now did i connect you with your xanga. >.< i am dumb</p>
<p>whoa whoa whoa! now wait just one cotton-pickin’ minute. you found the lair of my innermost thoughts and feelings? and didn’t subscribe? 
haha, just kidding. if you have one, PM me and we can link up. yay for Internet social networking :D</p>
<p>And I’m sorry, I should have clarified. I was addressing certain undertones from the beginning of the thread.</p>
<p>is being international and latin a minority?</p>
<p>I mean my skin is white I can be caucasian but the country I live in has a lot of mix… I can also be a latin cause I am not completely white my skin is a bit dark</p>
<p>If I go to the beach and tan there for one week I can be considered semi-black</p>
<p>so can I go for minorities? </p>
<p>It would be more advantageous applying as a latin right?</p>
<p>
That assumes that none of those three groups overlap – for instance, that no legacies play sports, or that no minorities are legacies.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I get the point. Those are some mighty intimidating numbers.</p>
<p>can someone please help me with my question</p>
<p>no i dont believe so. minority status is only given to those in the united states because they have been/are treated differently. ur status, being latino in ur respective country, is the majority :X sry</p>
<p>no longer should whites be disenfranchised… white rev… anyone?</p>
<p>Chinese in Malaysia r treated differently too. So y didn’t pton admit me?
I didn’t get any scholarship from the local government( the overseas studies scholarships are mostly given to the Malays with or without bright results); admittance to local universities is very limited for chinese( n even if u get, u might not b offered the course u want. They probably ask u to do agricultural science while u apply for mechanical engineering).</p>
<p>since my American Dream is dashed, i guess i hav to migrate to Singapore.</p>
<p>Hmm…is being an ORM really bad in terms of admission chances?</p>
<p>I am half Korean and half Jewish…lol.</p>
<p>So masamune…do you only recognize half of the Jewish faith, since you are “half Jewish?” For example, do you recognize Purim but not Passover? Just wondering.</p>
<p>Oh, I think I identify more with my Korean nationality. My father is Jewish so conventionally speaking, I am not really Jewish (correct me if I’m wrong…). Also, my father isn’t very religious. He even celebrates Christmas with my family since we’re actually Christian!</p>
<p>Yeah, we’re kinda weird like that haha.</p>
<p>I’m not the expert on the qualifications that various religions use to determine adherents’ membership; I just thought it was funny when you said you were half Jewish. It would be like if someone said, “I’m half Catholic, so therefore I only celebrate 20 days of Lent…”</p>
<p>do you find it funny when people say they’re half korean or half black?
I don’t see you making jokes about people with black legs and white torsos or only one “slanted” eye.</p>
<p>whem people say they are half _____ they are simply trying to make it clear that only one parent is _______"</p>
<p>(does anyone else feel like you can’t not sound like a racist when trying to describe/mention the typical trait of the asian eye?)</p>