<p>The weird nut who wants to construct an all-white thing in N. Dakota agreed to DNA testing for The Trisha Show - never heard of it, host is Trisha Goddard. The results were 86% European and 14% sub-Saharan African. The guy, whose name is Craig Cobb, refused to accept the results.</p>
<p>This reminds of the racist Hugarian party Jobbik’s leader, Csanad Szegedi. He was the #2 in the party and was the guy pushing for a public list of Jewish legislators so the public would be protected. He appeared in a black, fascist uniform at the European Parliament, etc., etc. Someone about a year ago investigated his family history and found much of his family was Jewish. He didn’t know. </p>
<p>So what happened to Szegedi? He was disowned by his old friends and companions. After all, in their eyes, he was Jewish - like this guy Cobb is now black. And the latest on Szegedi? He’s living as a Jew, observes the Sabbath, is learning Hebrew and is trying to wean himself off pork. </p>
<p>I guess in this light Cobb will be joining the Black Panthers.</p>
<p>Just for added fun - the more racist you are, the more likely you are to own a gun, and keeping a gun in the house raises your overall risk of dying from a gun-related injury (either homicide or suicide). Nature selecting out the racists, me thinks </p>
<p>Wasn’t the neanderthal whom replaced his neanderthal boss as head of the American Nasi Party ultimately found to be Jewish? That was Frank Collin, successor to George Lincoln Rockwell.</p>
<p>I think pretty much anyone who does 23andme or the Nat Geo DNA will find that a percentage of their DNA is from Africa. Skin color was not noted. My family is from Sweden with my oldest DNA from Ethiopia and H is from Denmark/Germany with oldest DNA from Nigeria. It is and interesting exercise.
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<p>Bay, I’d hazard a guess to say many (most?) white supremacists do not believe in evolution which makes them think they can’t possibly have African origins. </p>
<p>But no, no changes to that theory though there is some argument that many different human groups evolved separately away from Africa… don’t know how that would affect DNA.</p>
<p>These types of “sensational discoveries” about one’s ancestry make news every few years. I do recall the white dean of Ohio State University Law School relating his discovery that he was in fact black. And of course we have the descendants of Sally Hemmings, particularly Eustus Hemmings, whom I believed was said to have moved to Ohio and lived out his life in the late 19th century as a white man. And one of my favorite stories of racial revelation is the tale of actress/comedian Carol Channing. Channing’s father was a darn near white ‘black man.’ He passed for white for years to be able to work as a newspaper man. Carol later wrote about it and the anxiety she felt over the family secret.</p>
<p>When they refer to sub-Saharan Africa, they don’t mean like all humans originated in Africa. It’s a specific reference to black Africans. And the general ideology doesn’t mean they ignore evolution; they believe the “white race” separated and trace their superiority to that. </p>
<p>The Frank Collin thing is weirder: he knew he was Jewish. His father changed the name from Cohen to Collin when Frank was young. But he hated his father. And was convicted of pedophilia and served time for sex with boys. He continues dispensing idiocy today under a different name. Them Nazis, what can ya say? (BTW, I think labeling these Nazi morons as Neanderthals is a slur on Neanderthals.)</p>
<p>It doesn’t make sense to me. We humans either have a common African ancestor or we don’t. I don’t know how anyone can know what color the first human was.</p>
<p>I think what DNA testing does is to distinguish between racial origin within the last x generations (equivalent to perhaps 1000 years), not go all the way back to the first ancestor in Africa. Obviously there is some divergence of physical traits or at least DNA markers. People from certain regions may share certain mutations of specific genes, meaning it is probable you have an ancestor from that region if you have that mutation. Let’s say people living in Nigeria have mutation Y. If the only ancestor you had from Nigeria was from 20,000 years ago (e.g., let’s say he was the first human,) then that may predate the mutation, and therefore the DNA test wouldn’t suggest ancestry from that region.</p>
<p>So now maybe people won’t want to send their children to college in North Dakota because of this white supremacist stuff there? Just another piece of evidence that that part of the country is so racist.</p>
<p>No offense to North Dakota, which I’m sure is a wonderful state. Being from the South, I have a beef about people on CC frequently jumping to conclusions about a whole state or region because of a few nuts. :)</p>
<p>I agree with romanigypsyeyes that the reaction from the two women was wonderful!</p>
<p>My FB friends and I are having a lot of laughs over this news, especially in light of one making a previous post with the picture of a group of Native-American grandmothers capturing a Nazi flag which was the Nazi Navy flag during WWII. </p>
<p>Many jokes ensued not only about them being confronted by Native-Americans and anti-racist protestors, but also about having a Nazi Navy recruitment base in North Dakota with one referencing the Village People’s “In the Navy” song and another commenting that if Karl Doenitz saw the quality of the Neo-Nazi “recruits” present in another photo, his grave would serve as a self-perpetuating renewable energy source.</p>
<p>We do have a common African ancestor- they refer to her as mitochondrial Eve. We know that that through mtDNA. However, that was a few hundred thousand years ago and that is likely not the DNA they’re testing (it would be stupid to test mtDNA for this analysis as you’d only be getting mom’s side). The DNA they’re testing has changed with migration and will likely go back several generations (the 1000 year timeframe sounds reasonable- I’ll look into it though because I’m curious) which could place your DNA squarely in Europe or Africa or wherever.</p>
<p>ETA: It appears that most standard (ones like 23andMe) show between 10 and 16 generations back. You can get more advanced ones that go further in depth and further back.</p>