<p>I’m Asian and I’ve heard that AA doesn’t benefit me. In fact, I’ve heard that it actually deducts points from my applications because Asians are over-represented minorities. But, it’s terrible, really. Admissions should be based solely on the merits of your application, not on what race you are. If you’ve got a URM with a lesser-qualified app and someone who’s not a URM with a better-qualified app, I would definitely take the latter. Otherwise, it’s simply not fair!</p>
<p>^ nolagirl is right.</p>
<p>Afirmative Action does NOT help anyone. It does NOT help anyone. (except for the individual who gets in, of course)…AA does not help specific races in general.</p>
<p>Asians, Latinos, blacks, native americans… all existed in puke-infested poverty at one point in time. Afirmative Action was applied equally to all of them, but only one of those ethnicities was able to significantly advance themselves socially and economically. This shows that Affirmative Action isn’t what did the trick, and will never be the magical factor that salvages a certain race.</p>
<p>Asian Americans in general have cultural values geared toward focused work-ethic, and that is more important to contributing to success than any governmental policy that is aimed at targeting specific races. it never works.</p>
<p>Sure, there are people that are the same race that are different. But I’m just saying there are differences that COME as a result of race. And that if a colelge wants diversity in the classroom…diversity of ideas, viewpoints, perceptions…race is just another aspect of diversity that they can address if they want.</p>
<p>Just like music, athletes, artists, debaters, writers…</p>
<p>Tey believe this diversity contributes to the class. and I think it is important. A native american for ex. can offer a perspective on racism towards his people and insight into his culture that NOBODY else can know like he/she does. And if this can be brought into the classroom + contrubutes to discussion, learning, why not.</p>
<p>And again, Just because YOU belive colelges should take the best applicants etc etc doesnt mean anything. Like i said b4, colleges (private) are there to make money for themselves and survive, not to serve you and conform to ur desires. If this is how they get money from donors who like athelets, legacies, and diversity, they can do it.</p>
<p>From my argument, iguess im not focusing on AA necessarily helping anyone, but improving the school experience</p>
<p>You can argue that “more qualified” students contribute to a better experience, but colleges obvously see things differently and who are u to say one route is better than the other.</p>
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<p>All of those things you mentioned is something you can always change once you’re born.
Race is something that you’re born with. Thus it isn’t fair to judge based on race.</p>
<p>Yeah but in this case, the something you’re born with affects those other things. You cannot change ur mind to understand being in a minority group with distinct cultural and historical experiences.</p>
<p>Race affects those things</p>
<p>^ no, race does not affect those things. culture does. you can have a korean person living in korea believe something completely different from a korean person living in america. i’ve experienced it first hand, many times. it’s very difficult for the two to communicate, even when they both decide to speak the same language to converse.</p>
<p>also, i’d like to point out a completely different point… most of the students who took Advanced/High level English at my school were Asian or Indian, not Caucasian. This shows that despite language barriers(maybe the asian students grew up in america, but their parents didn’t) the average Asian and Indian students are willing to achieve and excel at whatever they do. It is simply unfair to discriminate against them based on race when it comes to colleges.</p>
<p>In order to “level the playing field” shouldn’t we be leveling it from the beginning? The answer is not to give preference to certain races in higher education, but to ensure equality of education among public schools.</p>
<p>Everyone should have equal opportunity to prove themselves, but by the same token, everyone should have to prove themselves.</p>
<p>^ yeah. that starts by instilling cultural values tailored toward focused work-ethic at a YOUNG age rather than later.</p>
<p>collegefreak1, you can’t always improve society by having a completely diverse environment. in college, would you want to have people who value working AND people who don’t? cream should rise to the top. diversity is not always good.</p>
<p>i support diversifying america ethnically/racially, but i think we need to find a common value system = this is what will bring peace, harmony, and understanding.</p>
<p>thus, colleges cannot see students in terms of their “race”. rather, it should be picking students with the best “values” (hardworking, motivated, well-behaved, supportive, etc). in today’s society, most of these traits seem to describe Asian Americans.</p>
<p>To an extent, yeah, but Race still matters (regardless of culture, what country you grew up,etc) </p>
<p>Wouldn’t you agree being a certain race in America comes with certain unique experiences? </p>
<p>I mean, race affects a persons life. Thats a fact. Are you saying that being asian (if thats what you are) has had NO bearing on how you live or perceive things? It has to somehow impact you. This is a kind of diversity that transcends how poor/rich you are, religion, country, culture, etc…</p>
<p>I mean, in the end, would you like to go to a school full of whites/asians etc? (maybe) but I would venture to presume that most people wouldnt. Ask yourself why? There must be some aspect of diversity that comes as a result of race regardless of other factors.</p>
<p>What you’re doing is favoring grades/hardworking students etc OVER the benefits that diversity brings to the classroom. Like I said, differnt perspectives, ideas, learning… This itself is an education. It is different, but Important too.</p>
<p>And it’s not liek AA admits students taht are not hardworking, smart…</p>
<p>Lets say AA is gone, inevitably, there will still be ppl left out. Colleges dont always get it right and admit the smartest, hardest working…That’s impossible.</p>
<p>i don’t care about people’s races. i generally care more about the values they carry.</p>
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<p>Also, the reason that certain races don’t try as hard compared to others, is a manifestation of values. They are also the ones who wouldn’t care as much if they were rejected by a certain college.</p>
<p>That’s a fact, not an opinion. People should get what they want, thus people should strive to get what they want.</p>
<p>Quote: i don’t care about people’s races. i generally care more about the values they carry. </p>
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<p>Well that’s you, colleges disagree and ultimately its their perogative.</p>
<p>And your above statement about valuing education is not true of everyone. So we cannot apply this to all.</p>
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<p>Well, after all, this is what you asked me…</p>
<p>Lol i guess, but it was meant to be hypothetical 
My point is most kids would want diversity SHEESH ur stubborn</p>
<p>ah… so your point is that im stubborn, and it’s my view that needs to be fixed, eh?
what happened to diversity?</p>
<p>If it weren’t for Affirmative Action, Jessie and Claudia never would have sneaked their way into the Babysitter’s Club.</p>
<p>Just saying.</p>
<p>Wow student chill. That’s not my point at all.
I was kidding. </p>
<p>I was just suprised you answered the way you did thats all… that you would like to go to a school without racial diversity, where everyone is basically white/asian</p>
<p>Made me wonder if you’re just saying that for the sake of stubbornness</p>
<p>well, then that would have been a better point to make than your original
“SHEESH ur stubborn”… and then telling someone to chill out about it based on their response</p>
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quote me where i said that</p>