Why does the state of Washington not keep

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<p>these guys in jail where they belong? This is just the latest in a series of heinous crimes committed by guys that by all rights should have been under lock and key.</p>

<p>[Local</a> News | Harps’ death called “random predatory violent killing” | Seattle Times Newspaper](<a href=“http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004153126_williams30m.html]Local”>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004153126_williams30m.html)</p>

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<p>Because it takes Money (read taxes)?</p>

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<p>No, it takes people willing to stop pandering to the dregs of society and doing what is right. Washington State is rolling in $$$ with over a Billion $$$ surplus in the bank. We have the biggest collection of weak-kneed judges and social workers in the US. A study of federal sentencing showed those tried in Seattle got the shortest sentences in the entire federal system.</p>

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<p>Wash and Or are rolling in $$, (at least temporary) because of budget controls and rising tax revenues. In Oregon we have the worst, the worst mental facility in the nation, but its paid for. </p>

<p>May I suggest a income tax for WA? or rising the sales tax? I think Western Washington has a transportation problem that will trump more beds for people who think they are Napoleon. </p>

<p>I am surprised that you are advocating a federal remedy for a state problem.</p>

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<p>In Seattle and its suburbs we also have roaming tent cities full of mentally unstable folks who really need to be treated in an appropriate facility. But hey, they have their right to be free.</p>

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<p>[Washington</a>, Oregon At The Bottom Of Mental Health Spending | KOMO-TV - Seattle, Washington | News Archive](<a href=“http://www.komotv.com/news/archive/4192216.html]Washington”>http://www.komotv.com/news/archive/4192216.html)</p>

<p>today
[Road</a> rage leads to stabbing](<a href=“http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/349348_roadrage31.html]Road”>http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/349348_roadrage31.html)</p>

<p>[State</a> budget reductions force local mental health cuts- King County](<a href=“http://www.metrokc.gov/exec/news/2006/0105mentalhealth.aspx]State”>http://www.metrokc.gov/exec/news/2006/0105mentalhealth.aspx)</p>

<p>[HistoryLink</a> Essay: Kyle Huff shoots and kills six people at a rave afterparty in Seattle’s Capitol Hill neighborhood on March 25, 2006.](<a href=“The Free Online Encyclopedia of Washington State History - HistoryLink.org”>Kyle Huff shoots and kills six people at a rave afterparty in Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood on March 25, 2006. - HistoryLink.org)</p>

<p>[Fatal</a> shooting shakes Capitol Hill](<a href=“http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/348985_fatal28.html]Fatal”>http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/348985_fatal28.html)</p>

<p>[The</a> Seattle Times: Local News: Mental-health work can be fatal](<a href=“http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003259422_mental15m.html]The”>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003259422_mental15m.html)</p>

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<p>If room is a problem, why aren’t we releasing non violent drug offenders instead of real criminals?</p>

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<p>Because then we’d be soft in the WAR AGAINST DRUGS. And God commanded that YE SHALL LOCK UP ANYONE WHO DOES DRUGS FOR THEY BE MORALLY CORRUPT.</p>

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<p>How is the War Against Drugs going? I hear about lots of innocent pot plants being seized but not so much about harder drugs.</p>

<p>[At least the war against the environment is going strong](<a href=“http://www.greenleft.org.au/2007/719/37306”>http://www.greenleft.org.au/2007/719/37306&lt;/a&gt;)</p>

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<p>I said nothing about a federal solution. Just the fact that Washington is also weak on federal crime sentencing for all types of fed crimes.</p>

<p>If Ron Sims wanted to spend more money on the problem he could. King County has a budget of nearly $5 Billion.</p>

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<p>Didn’t W and Conzo remove the Federal Attourney for Wash?</p>

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<p>Yes, maybe he had a good reason after all.</p>

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<p>I still don’t see how a federal intervention can solve your local mental problems. Perhaps you are getting too obsessive? I have a cousin in Seattle who is a psychologist, maybe she can help.</p>

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<p>Can you not read? I never suggested any fed involvement. The Fed example was just to point out the Seattle area’s proclivity for being soft on criminals. As all state laws will vary so comparing states is difficult. But it was interesting to see that the Seattle jurisdiction gave the shortest sentences for all fed crimes which are uniform across the US. That’s all. Maybe your cousin can help you work on your reading comprehension.</p>

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<p>sorry in misinterpretation connection STATE mental illness in WA and Federal prosecution of these mental illness crimes. I just see any reason why the feds should be involved. Much like the feds saying that OR has poor mental health facilities, our problem (?) not anyone elses. </p>

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<p>The Federal budget for the state block grants for mental health was through last year approximately $400,000,000. Sound like a lot? Hardly. Every state in the country and territory get a piece of it. By way of comparison a single F-22 jet costs $137 mil.</p>

<p>And, as an aside, the Feds have very little jurisdiction over violent crime.</p>

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<p><a href=“http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004159901_williams02m.html[/url]”>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004159901_williams02m.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>unbelievable- why do we pay taxes again?</p>

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<p>Exactly. It is not the funding or anything else. It is soft-headed caseworkers and “experts” who rather let everyone run free than keep the dangerous folks where they belong. All the rest is BS excuses and that goes for the children’s caseworkers who keep releasing kids to there unfit abusive parents until they get killed. It absolutely sickens me.</p>

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<p>FYI: Portland Wapato facility. Cost to build $59mil for a city population that is a third of Seattle. And continues to sit empty. (no funding for use)
<a href=“http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002876560_portlandjail17m.html[/url]”>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002876560_portlandjail17m.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>mental health crisis in Portland cost to open just for alcohol and drug inmates:
<a href=“http://www.koin.com/Global/story.asp?S=7825484[/url]”>http://www.koin.com/Global/story.asp?S=7825484&lt;/a&gt; </p>

<p>the reason for nonopening of brand new facility: Budget short falls.
<a href=“http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2008/02/plan_to_open_wapato_jail_draws.html[/url]”>http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2008/02/plan_to_open_wapato_jail_draws.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>As a footnote: My father was the medical director for one of the state’s mental institutions in the late 60’s. He argued for continued funding for hospital beds but the head administrator, a psychologist, argued that the patients can be controlled with medication and community based services. My father lost that battle.</p>