Why I did not rush

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<p>Daily Northwestern
Why I did not rush
Kate Bernot
Issue date: 8/7/07 Section: Forum</p>

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<p>I don’t really have a point of reference, but I have the impression that Greek life at NU is much more take-it-or-leave-it. If you join, great. If you don’t, that’s fine too. You don’t have to hang around only your fraternity brothers or sorority sisters; you can easily be friends with whoever you want to be. </p>

<p>Does anyone else have a point of reference? I just hear such different (and unappealing) stories from other campuses with large Greek systems.</p>

<p>Pizzagirl, you are pretty much correct. I made the decision to go Greek and it was one of the best decisions I’ve made in college, but two of my absolute closest friends are not a part of the Greek system and it hasn’t strained our relationship at all. It provides an outlet for things to do, a lot, but I make an effort to not restrict my friendship to those in the system, and it’s not a problem at all. It’s definitely just what you make of it. I know people who rushed both frats and sororities and regretted it, and people who didn’t and don’t regret it… and the reverse, obviously, for both. </p>

<p>Also, to me, that article seems slanted because it only backhandedly compliments the Greek system (“Sororities are the only way to make a ton of friends on campus.” “If you don’t rush, how will you meet a guy?” “Joining a sorority is just a way of buying friends.”)… when all of those are hyperbolic and not at all representative of my experience going Greek. The article never actually says one good thing about joining a fraternity or sorority and that seems biased to me.</p>

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<p>Are gay men welcome to join a fraternity? Does sexual orientation have to be disclosed? Are some fraternities more tolerant than others?</p>

<p>How does the school go about assigning roommates when one of the guys is gay? I’m sure a homophobe would not want to be assigned a gay roommate anymore than a gay male would want to be assigned to a homophobe.</p>

<p>Trying to stay on the frat topic here, but did have these side bar questions, too. </p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>Yes, gays can join frats or sororities. Yes, some are certainly more “tolerant” than others. I’d think that a homosexual/bisexual/___sexual would want to tell the rush chair/president/greek initiate of choice that he/she is not a heterosexual to avoid potential conflict later. I suspect that there are some groups that would rush someone and then have a huge problem if it later finds out that initiated a gay. By and large, I don’t think its a big deal, but probably something to get out in the open.
And the Daily is historically anti-Greek. It’s one of the best kept secrets on campus. People LOVE to read and write about the latest party that got busted or how some drunken frat guys took advantage of a freshman girl. While those things are noteworthy, philanthropy, brotherhood, sisterhood, and positive emotions usually are left on the cutting room floor. I do applaud the Daily for its coverage of some philanthropic events this past May, but in terms of covering the Greek system, the Daily is overwhelmingly negative.
Greek-haters love to sit on a perch of authority and independence and snipe at those who “march like sheep to a stereotypical organization that is willing to sell friendship”. Indeed, it is far easier to stereotype the Greeks by watching Animal House than it is to attempt to understand the unspoken yet palpable bond that unites brothers and sisters as they try to work together to live better lives.
And with regards to parties: Frats serve an important purpose - providing a safe environemnt for unsafe actions. Already 7 NU freshmen have been sent to the hospital for alcohol-related illnesses. Nearly all of them occurred in a dorm room. I firmly believe that fraternity brothers are far equipped to handle those who have had too much and care for them than is some girl’s roommate who also has had too much. Greeks have been trained (yes, we get training) on alcohol consumption and are very familiar with what to do. The campaign against Greeks is something that I think is derived from ignorance and malice; and it weakens the NU community.</p>

<p>so how does rush work…does it start in the fall and technically start in the winter…what do u do to get recruited or whatever</p>

<p>^nothing starts until second quarter, so freshmen have some time to settle in… someone correct me if I’m wrong</p>

<p>Re: #6 That’s unfortunate that some frats are disappointed when they find out they’ve initiated a non-heterosexual person.</p>

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<p>of course they are welcome. sexual orientation OBVIOUSLY does not have to be disclosed, that is your own business, and finally i would say all fraternities on this campus would be equally tolerant.</p>

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<p>i usually agree with cerebral assassin but i think this statement is total ********</p>

<p>Elsijfdl, are you in a fraternity or sorority? If a non-hetero joins an organization that doesn’t care, then no-harm, no-foul. If he/she was rushing a more intolerant organization, then a future crisis would be averted as the rushee and the house part ways.
I’m not saying it’s good, bad, or just that a person should come out to a rush chair or president, but it’s good policy and politics. It makes a ton of sense considering the wide range of tolerance within the greek community.
Unless you’re in a greek organization…not “my best buddy is in a house” or “I go to a lot of parties at frats” or “I occassionally look at sorority houses on the way to class”, I respectfully ask that you to defer to a person who has gone through the rush process and initiated in a greek organization that has non-heterosexuals.</p>

<p>i’m in one of the ‘frattier’ if not ‘frattiest’ house on campus and i can tell you with certainty that not only do we not care about sexual orientation, but that we actually have one or several gay members and i would not dissuade someone from rushing because they thought they would be judged for being gay. fraternities just want cool people that they like to hang out with</p>

<p>Remind me where I said gays should not rush.
Your words prove my point. You said that gays should not be dissuaded because they thought they were being judged for being gay. So what harm is there in asking if its an issue, hearing it isn’t, and then moving on?</p>

<p>And of course watch it turns out you two are in the same house :stuck_out_tongue: Hmm, frattier if not frattiest? …</p>

<p>i have a few gay guy friends in houses, one of which went through the process after he was already out, and a couple others who have since come out, and as far as i can tell it hasn’t affected their experience in a negative way. </p>

<p>and speaking for sororities, due to the process of recruitment, it’s not something that’s directly addressed and i can’t imagine it would be a problem in any house after the fact.</p>

<p>I hate the term “fratty”. I don’t even use it as pejoratively. Everyone thinks it means something, but it actually means nothing. I think of my fraternity to be a solid group of young men who live, work, and learn together. We respect women, don’t get embarrassingly drunk, and are on the administration’s good side. If that means I’m not “fratty”, so be it.</p>

<p>Aw, come on, guys, now you have to obliquely drop hints to tell us what frats you’re in! No fair otherwise!</p>

<p>For alumni, recent accepts, and prospies, the fraternity I am in is irrelevant.
For current students, seeing my house through my eyes would make out to be a liar.
There is only one fraternity (and even that one might) that does not, at least occasionally, invite non-brothers and their counterparts, up for acts of varying legality. My fraternity throws parties. I have good friends in other houses and, by comparison, mine is far more serious about brotherhood and following a higher (though not necessarily religious) moral calling.
I could reveal my fraternity, but I’m not sure if the average student would believe me, and it would create negative perceptions of my fraternity.</p>

<p>I hate to speak in vagaries, but I just don’t see how it is in the interest of the readers, myself, my house, or the Greek community at-large to start giving specifics.</p>

<p>Perhaps I’m reading too much into your post, but I have a guess now as to which you’re a brother in… If I’m right we’ve almost certainly met in person…</p>

<p>What have you got to hide about your fraternity? Just say it. I really want to know…</p>