wow, just won’t let it go will you? Well doesn’t really matter anyway, I’ve posted fact after fact after fact about the very high academics of TCNJ not personal opinion. Oh and they were just featured in the Princeton review as one of the top schools in the entire country for ROI. Just sayin.
Any way we can stop with the SUNY/Bing/TCNJ/Rutgers/etc hijacks and go back to “Why pick an OOS state school?”
Good Point. Generally you should only apply to an Out-of-State Public School if it is one of your top choices or if the tuition is very cheap
In-State Public Schools have lower tuition & generally are more diverse.
Private Schools have more/better financial aid & generally better class sizes/structure
Out-of-State Public Schools are somewhere in the middle
I applied to 10 schools(3 in state public,1 out of state public, and 6 out of state private)
it’s a funny comment in actuality. TCNJ is higher ranked as a value for oos than it is for in state.
Why would an in-state public be more diverse than an OOS? Wouldn’t it very much depend on the states you’re comparing and the specific schools?
I see it as the same reason why someone would pick a private school. I picked Michigas as an OOS- it is a state school, but it is richer/offers more resources than almost any private school (save for the Ivy League and private schools of Ivy-caliber like Stanford, Chicago, Duke, Williams, Amherst, etc.).
Good point. I meant more diverse in majors/students compared to private. OOS is just as diverse as In State
when it comes to choosing an higher education institution , its really much more relevant as to the ROI and if it offers a course of study youre interested in and a path to a strong ROI. Diversity , while can come into the balance, it simply is not the major judging criteria in almost all cases , and if it is well someone isn’t well informed.
Many of the best schools are quite diverse:
https://colleges.niche.com/rankings/most-diverse-colleges/
In sum, some states have outstanding state systems with those at the high end rivaling the quality of many of the best private schools whereas some states have crappy state systems with the best in their systems not getting close to those of the non-flagships (and not anywhere close to the flagships) in other systems and are markedly different from and inferior to some of the non-flagships in those other states. That is why many top NY students attend places like Michigan and are willing to pay much more then they would if they stayed in state or if they were in-state for Michigan and that is why students from Michigan don’t flee to NY schools even when they could probably get in much more easily than they can to their flagship and could probably attend for very little (because NY appears to give merit only to OOS).
There’s also a huge reason that quality NJ students flock to North Carolina or Virginia or Maryland or Pennsylvania. The schools in the home state just aren’t good. Combine that with being an undesirable state to live in and you won’t get many coming in from other states as well.
A number of schools waive the OOS fee for decent stats. Additionally, things like the Midwest Student Exchange Program exist which can combine with better merit than the in state options.
We were able to find OOS schools of a comparable middle fifty for every in state option for half the in state tuition - or less.
Yes the in states have some competitive scholarships, but so do those OOS. In the end, in state was just more expensive.
Plus D16 wanted a change of scenery.
@ClarinetDad16 No, MSU gives either in-state tuition or the $15,000, not both.
I had a UA counselor tell me that years ago they sent recruiters out to Texas and one other state I’ve forgotten and recruited heavily. Pretty soon those students went back to their hometowns and spoke so highly of UA it created a flood of full pay students from those states. She said if you look at those same two states today, you’ll find they have more students at UA still today than any other state. I found that highly interesting. This doesn’t even take into account the merit scholarship students.
What is the fascination with Penn State?
I currently know about 5 kids from our HS at PS. They all speak about the football games, the rah rah, the trailers that line the area for miles when there are games, the Greek life, the dance marathons, etc.
I recently ran into a dad I know who showed me pictures of these trailers. It was really something that I have never seen before.
Is it also because it’s in the Northeast?
Do you mean is PS “popular” because it offers that type of college experience and it is also in the northeast?
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Not sure, but maybe. I do not know of many other NE schools quite like it.