Will Acceleration Increase Chance of Ivy Admisson?

<p>Greetings to all parents,</p>

<p>I would like to know if chances are incresased for admission to an Ivy League school by accelerating or holding a child back for one academic year.</p>

<p>I have a 7-year old, who was born in December, 1998 (will be 8 years old in a few months). I did chose not to hold my child back a year due to their intelligence and he is now in 3rd grade, along with most other children born in 1998. He’s well behaved and adjusted to other children in his age group. I know that he can continue at an acellerated pace and make good grades but educators try to persuade me that holding him back a year would prove higher grades…however, knowing my child, he would be unchallenged and board. To make a long story short, for his 7 years of life, I was at home with him, exclusively for the first 2 years (to develop love, self-esteem, reading/learning, etc)… I have been a “responsible”, diligent parent but as this is my only child, I don’t know the best thing to do in order to increase his changes on such a school- over the other details, such as GPA, SAT scores, Outside Interests, etc. For the other 5 years of his life, I have included my being an at-home type mother, had some career (so he is aware of that), some homeschooling (exclusively and after school) and regular home-training (manners, etc. that is is more than he could ever get in a day in class at school). I am only trying to do the best for my child and have his life on a path that he can respect a responsible parent managing it to a robust level for when he becomes a young adult- developing now, at a time, when he doesn’t know the difference.</p>

<p>I am asking now, to parents/admissions counselors who know, as I don’t want to be a parent, at the end of his high school years that wished I’d planned better for admission to an Ivy Leage school. </p>

<p>I have the flexibility to hold him back or keep him a little ahead. The intention is to ensure that his grades and SAT scores are at the top, regardless. Any input on parents or Ivy Leage school admissions personnel would be greatly appreciated!!! He is very strong in Math and seems to like Engineering & Business so perhaps we will be looking at Harvard, MIT or Princeton (where he knows a lot of their alumni and liked their overview of courses). Have a great day and thank you for all of everyone’s time and assistance!!! </p>

<p>Kindest, Carla~</p>

<p>As far as I know, acceleration is mostly irrelevant to college admissions.</p>

<p>I would be more concerned about your son’s experiences between now and college admission time. For some kids in some situations, acceleration works out well, both academically and socially. For other kids, it’s a miserable experience – they don’t fit in socially with their older classmates, and the added academic challenge proves to be only a temporary benefit. It depends on the child’s personality, the kind of acceleration program offered by the school system, and the other resources available in the community.</p>

<p>I would suggest that you find out as much as you can about the experiences of other accelerated children in your community before making this important decision.</p>

<p>Sorry, but this strikes my funny bone. Worrying about getting a child into an Ivy school when said child is only 7!</p>

<p>Worrying about college when what is important is to get the education that is most appropriate for the child at his particular stage of development and given his particular interests. I hope that posters who decry that Ivy frenzy read this post.</p>

<p>Lets see here…7 years old and you are already trying to find a career path for him and set the poor kid up for Ivy admission.
Back off a little and let the kid be a kid for cripes sake!
What if it turns out that he really wants to go to a non-Ivy school or doesn’t want to go to college. You need to relax about this and let your son enjoy his childhood and do the things that he wants to do, not what YOU want him to do so YOU can get him into the school that YOU want him to attend.</p>

<p>marite, I’m pretty sure this is a spoof. I hope it is!</p>

<p>Stickershock:</p>

<p>Well, it did strike my funny bone, so it worked!</p>

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<p>Let’s HOPE it is, but it may not be. In our town there are people who have their kids tutored in math in kindergarten so that they can make our state-winning math team in middle school.</p>

<p>And don’t forget all the competition to get into the right preschools that will feed into the best private schools that feed into the best colleges.</p>

<p>I am a December baby and was also the youngest in my class. Didn’t hurt me at all. My d is a September baby, and I could have held her back. But in day care, all her friends were a year older than she, and she kept up with them socially, academically and maturity-wise. I didn’t hold her back, and she’s doing just fine.</p>

<p>Do what’s right for your kid now and college will take care of itself.</p>

<p>The “seems to like Engineering and Business” puts it over the top for me. I think that it’s a spoof, too.</p>

<p>If not, I apologize, but I concur with all the above advice.</p>

<p>I don’t know if this post is for real or not. </p>

<p>If it is for real…</p>

<p>I cannot imagine in my wildest dreams making decisions at age 7 around which college my child may be able to get into ten years later. As well, the focus is already on “an Ivy”, even particular Ivies and particular career paths and curricula! </p>

<p>To me, the ONLY issue right now for your child has to do with proper and developmentally appropriate placement. Each child differs greatly in this way. It sounds from your description, that your son’s current placement is working though I am not 100% sure the motivations behind his teachers suggesting to spend another year in the current grade and not accelerate. I can’t tell if they think HE needs that and it would fit him better OR if they are generalizing that “if he is the oldest in his grade, he can be at the top, have better grades, get into a better college, etc.” I have seen that exact mentality in my neck of the woods with some parents of boys. I actually think SOME boys who have late birthdays for their grade do benefit from an extra year. I even have a nephew in another state who had a late birthday for their school’s entrance date and they chose to wait a year to enter him in K because socially and emotionally, that seemed like the right placement for HIM and knowing him as I do (he is now 16 and a soph in HS), it was totally right. He is intellectually very bright but physically, socially, and emotionally, I cannot see him having been a grade ahead of where he is placed. HOWEVER, where I live, there was an entire contingent of parents of sons my D2’s year, who ALL held their sons back from entering K even though their birthdays met the deadline (here the deadline is Sept. 1). It was in vogue to do so…with perceived advantages for their sons to be at the top of the class, rather than for specific individual developmental reasons. These were bright kids as well. My D went all through school with them starting in nursery school. I recall one third of her nursery school class as being a good 15 months older than she was. That is because my D entered early (the opposite phenomenom). These boys were not developmentally “young” and surely could have been in their regular grade. Years later, one graduated HS a year early. Another went off to boarding school (another “advantage”!!). The one who went to boarding school ended up at the same Ivy as my older D, by the way. </p>

<p>I am against keeping a kid back only as a way to have “an advantage” later on. I don’t see it that way at all. I see waiting an extra year as a “gift” of time for those who are not socially or emotionally ready for their chronological grade. </p>

<p>The decision should be made solely on his proper placement socially and emotionally and academically, not to game some “advantage” that does not even exist. Your son could end up improperly placed as you indicate, even bored. If you see social and emotional issus in his current placement, different story. I’d have to hear why those teachers recommend him not moving onto the next grade. If it is just because of his birthdate alone, that is not a good reason. If it has to do with HIM developmentally, that IS a good reason. </p>

<p>My oldest D met the K entrance cut off date by FIVE days. I have to say, THANKFULLY. This WAS the right placement for her even though she was the youngest in her grade all through school. This went against the current “vogue” thing where parents of kids with any summer birthday, waited an extra year even though their children could legally enter K. Anyway, this D went on to be valedictorian. She was not only properly placed, she had to have many accomodations in MS and HS to accelerate beyond her grade (she did in elementary school as well, but that was easier with multi age classrooms). So, not only was she ready for her grade, she actually had to have acceleration and independent studies in high school. She is the one currently attending an Ivy, though UNLIKE you, she nor we, ever ever had “Ivy goals”. She started looking into colleges junior year of HS, not before. </p>

<p>My younger D, born 25 months after her sister, missed the K cut off for entrance by five weeks. She had been in the nursery school class for two years that was going to move onto K. She was very advanced even in this grouping. Her nursery school felt strongly that she should go onto K. This wasn’t based just on intellectual development at all, but also social and emotional development. She was granted an early admissions to K (long long story that I won’t get into now, which involved moving). She was the youngest in her grade all through school. In elem., we had multi age classes. She was advanced academically and socially in her own grade (which was already an accelerated placement), but they were able to place her in multi age classrooms where there was always a grade or two above hers in the room and the work was individualized and accelerated for her. In MS and HS, she had to accelerate even more and also have accomodations made and did some indep. studies and so on. Even having accelerated and been ahead due to K placement chronologically, she still was taking classes with older grades. She then graduated HS after 11th grade, so she accelerated chronologically even another year besides the K early entrance. She entered college at age 16 1/2. Is this for everyone?? NO way. But this is an example of how you cannot generalize what you SHOULD do. I didn’t put my kids into a younger grade or choose to not accelerate so that they could have some advantage. Rather, they were adequately challenged academically and socially in grades ahead of themselves because that is what they NEEDED. Did it hurt them? No way! One was val and got into most of her colleges, including very selective ones and is going to one of her first choices. The other one wasn’t at any disadvantage and in fact, graduated even ANOTHER year ahead of her proper chronological placement (she should have been in tenth grade when she graduated). She also got into her first choice college, a very selective program. These were the right placements for these particular children.</p>

<p>I’m suggesting you think about the developmentally appropriate placement for your son, rather than think about where it might lead him for college. My kids are at the same selective schools that the kids who parents wanted them to be the oldest in the class ended up at anyway. My kids being way younger did not hurt them at all! Being “young” for a grade has much more to do with developmental issues, not where you will get into college later on!</p>

<p>Oh PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let this be ■■■■■.</p>

<p>“seems to like Engineering and Business”</p>

<p>translation: Likes to play with Lego and when asked to do some chores (such as tidying up after self), asks: “What do I get for doing this?”</p>

<p>Marite, that is wonderful! LOL</p>

<p>Ditto from me! :D</p>

<p>True story:</p>

<p>Once, about 10 years ago, I was standing with a client, a well-respected business executive, watching our then-7-year-old sons play intramural soccer. We were in the middle of a marathon three-year project which involved the client taking primary control of a family-controlled business from his father, and restructuring things so that he could, if he wished, eventually pass along control of the business to one or more of his children. An 8-year-old girl streaked down the field with the ball; client’s son started to challenge her, thought better of it, and fell down in a little heap. My client, still staring out at the field, said, “I’m just not sure my son has what it takes to run a billion-dollar corporation.”</p>

<p>Then we both laughed.</p>

<p>Just chiming in here…
From what I can tell, the OP is a parent and so for now, let’s treat her concerns as her legitimate story. I realize when someone has no prior posts to evaluate where they are coming from, that is hard to do, along with understanding the “concerns” she expressed. I do believe this is a parent who has expressed her “story”. Let’s proceed without accusations of “■■■■■”, thanks.</p>

<p>I think you have the good education angle covered. So, I would suggest that you start thinking sports right away. i am sure Harvard, Yale and Columbia will need a Tight end, Middle Linebacker, and few Offensive Lineman.</p>

<p>I would go right over and sign up for your local peewee football team. Get him fitted for shoulder pads and a helmet. Get ready for twice a week practices. Start yelling at your kid now so when all the coaches start yelling he will be conditioned and wont start crying. Join costo and stock up on Gatorade too.</p>

<p>Hey! don’t categorize all football parents like that! my son didn’t even play until he got to high school. i’ve never yelled at him for anything related to football. ok, but i have bought lots and lots of gatorade!</p>

<p>Carla,</p>

<p>Welcome to the Parent’s Forum. It’s great that you want to provide your son with the best educational offerings available, so you are on the right track so far.</p>

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<p>I hope you understand that those of us who have one or more children in college look a little askance at your question. The reason is that there are so many variables involved in raising a child, let alone a high-achieving child, that it’s hard to treat it like a linear project.</p>

<p>So many things happen in the years between seven and seventeen, that the best you can hope for is to find the best environment for your child at each moment in time. Whether your child skips a grade is not the most important factor. Feeding his curiosity, challenging him to try new things and trying to help him develop into a contributing human being is probably the best you can hope for. As time goes on, and his interests become more clear, you can look for enrichment opportunities. </p>

<p>For the most part, all you can do now is to see that his needs as a seven year old are met. And then just let him grow.</p>