<p>That is the crux of her long-term problem. Online security is difficult enough when you have to combat the ingenuity of the bad guys. Having also to combat the laxity or corruptness or poor judgment of your own employees is a headache no manager wants. I can’t imagine that after this, anybody in the field is ever going to want to hire her. If I were doing the hiring, I would certainly be inclined to think, “You’ve done this once. I don’t want it to be my problem when we eventually find out whether you’d do it again.”</p>
<p>During their relationship, yes, the BF had given/allowed access passwords to his account to her for the purpose of getting classes scheduled and applying for financial aid.
He is a new freshman with 6 credit hrs currently.
She has tried to push ‘I had consent’ but, this event happened days after the breakup and no one in their right mind gives consent to another to change passwords and lock them out of their own account. </p>
<p>She apparently did not have any special access to passwords through her IT internship (she’s not going for an IT position in life).</p>
<p>The ex BF reported her to the IT dept when she was initially hostile when he requested that she change the passwords back (finals are approaching) as it was night and he couldn’t do it until the next day. She said ‘go to the IT dept and change them yourself’.
Fearing that she may have more access, he told IT what happened as he changed his passwords. Then notified them to ensure she had no special access.
IT directed him to report the incident to campus police who made a report.
Campus police directed them to report her to the city police…he did not.</p>
<p>She is on probation for a minor crime in the city.
She is bi-polar and states she wasn’t on her meds at the time she changed the passwords.</p>
<p>The main issues against her is that she threatened to harm him in this manner, then did so even after he asked her not to.
She worked with IT for the past semester and should have known their policies…and states she did and that the ex should have told her what he was doing (which was exactly what she told him to do) so she could have told him she’d get into trouble.
And, last semester, she filed a lawsuit against the Student Gov’t Association for unethical behavior. In that, she pored over the rules for the Uni (for employees and students) and knew policy better than most would. She won her case in part; they were violating their constitution and needed to rewrite it. But, she dropped the ethical charges as she decided to follow with the internship and other financial aid avenues of her own (the impetus behind the lawsuit was over finances).
She worked with the Dean of Students over that issue.</p>
<p>In the end, she appears to have really hurt herself.</p>
<p>PS. She used university computers to change the passwords.
And it was done on the day when the IT dept took her to lunch to wrap up her internship.</p>
<p>If this all happened over a ‘minor’ spat, what would she have done over a ‘major’ one?
She sounds like she needs a lot of help. I don’t understand why anyone would do something like this, her anger/power trip is scary! She sounds like she’s only sorry because she got caught.</p>
<p>Clearly, she should go back to a psychiatrist pronto so she can get better control of her medication and her life. Being bipolar and off her medicine doesn’t excuse any of this, but it does make it a lot easier to understand what happened and how.</p>
<p>I think she probably needs to withdraw from school–if they don’t suspend or expel her–and devote some time to getting her head together with therapy and tuning her meds.</p>
<p>I have sympathy for anyone struggling with mental illness, but I would be really concerned about WHAT she chooses to do when she is off her meds. (Not to mention the fact that she goes off them…)</p>
<p>So in short, she’s a real piece of work, and the boy, the IT dept, the university, and the city she committed her minor crime in, are all well shod of her.</p>
<p>No, in short she’s mentally ill. I agree that the boyfriend is well rid of her, but there’s a big difference between being sick and being “a piece of work.”</p>
<p>Back in my day we called these fatal attraction ex-girlfriends Crazy. I dated more than my share of these girls in my late teens early 20s. I wrote it off as hormone thing that afflicted many young women so I started dating girls 24+ when I picked up on the pattern.</p>
<p>I guess now they get a nice clean bi-polar label that excuses bad behavior because they are “sick”.</p>
<p>Altering security database or files without proper authority and reason is a serious transgression. However, since OPs friends ex did not do this then she may be able to plead her case to a suspension. I personally think she should be suspended for a year and not just merely be put on probation. As for changing passwords in a joint bank account that has nothing to do with the school.</p>
<p>This story adds another advice I should pass on to my kids. The boy is a freshman just like my D. I would never think that my college child will open a joint account with a BF until now. Its one of those things that defy common sense and as a parent you scratch your head and ask, Why would you do that?</p>
<p>Agree, MOWC. It sounds like the OP poster may in actuality be the girl who committed the offense. That said, the namecalling in posts 27 and 29 is uncalled for, IMO.</p>
<p>** sure knows a lot of details for someone who is just a “friend”.</p>
<p>Much, much, older and yes should be aware of possible problems.
However, I knew her for 2 years and we held a decently profitable joint business.
The break-up was quick and her actions happened 3 days after the event.
I didn’t think to change passwords on anything until she made her threats…and she was immediately acting on them as she made them.
When I went to log on, they were all changed. I did message her and ask her to change them back. Hours later, she was still somewhat hostile and attempted extortion; fixing the passwords in exchange for giving in to demands.</p>
<p>While I do care about her, I have informed her that her actions were not acceptable.
The threats were being documented as they happened (on-line) and I’m sure IT documents anything school related. More so if school computers are used.</p>
<p>I am unsure what position to take myself. To defend her (unsure if she’s really remorseful) or to stick to the guns and hold her accountable for her actions. Or, simply to stand back and let the pieces fall where they may.
She is becoming more and more afraid of the consequences she faces and it is painful to see someone ruin their life over a culmination of poor choices.</p>
<p>I was mostly curious as to how severe of an action this is and what the end results are.</p>
<p>From what can be discerned from the student code of conduct, she violated several rules. And, with the IT dept stating she could be expelled or have her school account put on hold (locking her out), it appeared to be bad.</p>
<p>My explanation of a joint acount is, “if [co-owner] comes in tomorrow, and tells you ‘Boy, is that allyphoe a sucker - I’m taking all the money and going to Hawaii,’ I want you to give her all the money and tell her you hope she has a nice trip.”</p>
<p>I think most college kids don’t think of that scenario, and only think of how much of a hassle it is to pay communal expenses out of two accounts.</p>
<p>You are a first semester freshman, have known her, a college junior, for 2 years, and have had a profitable business together?? Care to expound a bit?</p>
<p>I wouldn’t defend her. She needs help to understand basic right from wrong. What she did is “bad” with really no excuses. If her mental health is to be used as an excuse then she needs to remove herself or be removed from school or work until she understands right from wrong. You can name it anything you want. This was the wrong thing to do on so many levels, that “naming” it something PC or not is not relevant.</p>
<p>We are hearing only one side of the story, and perhaps only selected parts of the story. I am reminded of the 2 Australian DJ’s and the (late) nurse in the hospital in England…</p>
<p>We had our own accounts but we ran a joint business.
Thus, funds came into the business one from sales, overhead was taken care of and we split profits to take care of personal and joint costs. Much like a marriage.</p>
<p>I’m returning to school after a couple of decades to resume a more enjoyable field of occupation (law). She’s on a career path.</p>
<p>Other than initially wanting to remove bias from posters on this issue (thus, not naming who was who but sticking to the facts), all details are accurate.</p>
<p>From the jist, she does face severe penalties and that was what I was curious about.</p>
<p>I now have to navigate what course of action I should take.
The rational one is to disengage and back off allow her to suffer the consequences of her actions.</p>
<p>No Jym, I recieved no special assistance.
she just used her knowledge of navigating college red tape to help me find the courses I was seeking and figure out financial aid; grants, scholarships and loans.</p>
<p>It doesn’t appear that she abused any IT abilities for anything, just used school computers to access my passwords and change them. Something she was asked not to do when she threatened to do so and something she should have known was wrong and would lead to trouble for her.</p>