Will you buy an electric or hybrid car next?

We went out to dinner and then stopped to buy some yogurt. Saw one Cyberdumpster and at least 6 Mach-e in the parking lots by the winery and the small grocery store. I didn’t bother to count the Teslas, Kias, and Bolts. Too many of them. Mach-e is hands down the most beautiful EV out there.

Also saw one of those giant grill Lexuses (Lexi ?). My husband’s first reaction was, “Good luck, babe! I mean washing the bugs off of THAT!” :laughing:

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For most couples, sharing a car would not work. In our case we are both are home a lot…. or together when out. Still we do like having two cars, at least for now. Can’t pretend I don’t sometimes think about how nice it would be to always park in the center of the garage (which I do when hubby is out of town).

We are a solidly ONE car couple. Our only car is an EV - a Tesla X. We both work hybrid jobs requiring some office time. We do have a 24 yr old truck that only goes to HD and the dump… I don’t want to drive that thing :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: . I’d rather bike or run. For emergencies, there is a bus stop 1/2 mile up the street, and in a pinch, Uber.

ETA: we weren’t sure we would be ok with one car until we tried it. Sold my Matrix and replaced Lexus van with the X seven years ago. Still a one car family. The truck sits in the garage 28-29 days out of each month.

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I’m glad I live somewhere without swarms of locusts. In 38 years of driving I have never cleaned a car grill. People should move if they have to deal with bug infestation.

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:stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:!!! Don’t drive at night on I-5 in the summer.

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We don’t have bugs around Boston, other than mosquitoes that might kill us…

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One of my s’s and DIL are a one car family. They have very different work schedules and DIL has to be on site, but they make it work. They have an EV.

And they do not have love bugs, or locusts. But there is a huge difference. Time to do some entomology study.

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Again, and stated several times now, who said anything about getting them off? My point from the start was a “grill” makes them less obvious, not easier to clean. My point was what I did for decades probably never got them off the grill but I didn’t see them so good enough. Can’t help but see them on the EV – very obvious and unsightly. I’m not isolated. The online groups for the vehicle are filled with posts of people complaining about it and asking for tips on how to get them off. It’s an inherent trade off / consequence of the solid front panel design, especially on the vehicles that have a large flat piece perpendicular to the road.

Another bad idea that hopefully disappears as we drifts informally toward standardization now that everyone is retooling for NACS ports in the US EV market and most of those chargers are rear driver’s side. The very front and the very back are terrible places for the charging infrastructure. I don’t want to get in a relatively minor fender bender and then be unable to charge until repaired or have the repair now include my car’s charging port and electronics.

That’s what we thought until we tried it and it has worked out fine. For other 30 years we have each had more dedicated vehicle and only drive the others under special circumstances (shared driving on road trips, some need for the capacity of the other car, etc.). Never thought the alternative could work because we are on the opposite sides of the neat and tidy scale. And we now are both home most of the time. But when we got the EV we decided to give it a shot at making it the “primary” vehicle for either driver with the ICE car being only if both cars needed to be used or on long road trips, since this was more cost and energy efficient (our EV is costing us about 1/8th for the equivalent range as our gas car when we charge at home, which is most of the time).

And that has worked. There’s been a few compromises necessary in terms of where things like sunglasses are stored and how messy it can be. But overall we’ve adapted fine. The EV gets used on far more trips than the ICE but the mileage on the two is similar since the ICE gets used for the longer trips. Gas bill has plummeted and we have gone from refilling each almost weekly to refilling the ICE every few weeks to a month (except intra road trip). When we are both going out the informal rule is whoever is going further uses the EV. In practice I end up using it more but only because my spouse "doesn’t want to be the one driving when it gets its first ding so she biases toward the ICE (which used to be my dedicated car) if the distance difference is small or questionable. She still considers the EV the nicest car she has ever driven in terms of driving feel. I’m the same. My old ICE car has a nicer interior than the EV but man the EV is orders of magnitude more fun to drive than anything we have before.

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If you don’t remove them you will ruin the finish of your car. And the bugs getting through the grill into your radiator or engine is not a good thing. And MUCH easier to wash them off a car without a grill than with one. Enough. If you want a grill, buy an ICE car. Or get a fake grill sticker :rofl::rofl: Best Tesla Model Y Model 3 fake grille bumper decal

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supposedly, that is why Elon put the charger port in the rear quarter panel; o it wouldn’t get damaged in a front fender-bender. (but he got flack for that decisions as other manufacturers went forward).

The prius prime has charger for electric on rear, passenger’s side. The gas tank is on rear driver’s side.

Spending this long weekend test driving a bunch of EVs

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Let us know what you drove and your thoughts.
Our Subaru has the charger back on drivers side.

My ideal car is a small coupe. Of course there is no EV coupe, so I made a list of hatchbacks and sedans I could find.

One thing I noted in almost all EVs is too much screen. It’s like multiple iPads in the car. Some had a few physical buttons, but a lot of functionality needed a touchscreen.

Hyundai Ioniq 6
I don’t think this sedan had any personality. It did have more tech as is Hyundai’s norm. For example, instead of simple blind spot detection it showed a camera view of that when needed on the instrument panel screen.

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BMW i4
Drove a BMW coupe for many years so I expected to like it. First of all, BMW is calling the i4 a gran coupe but it looks like a normal sedan. There is a lot of the BMW feel in the i4. However this is an EV but set up so that it feels like an ICE car while driving. I am not a fan of that. Also the interior is busier than is usual for BMWs.

This was my best bet. So I was very disappointed.

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What kind of bugs and EV are we talking about? I have a charcoal grey Chevy Bolt and live in the South (many bugs) and this is a non-issue for me.

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Lucid Air
The best looks among all the cars I looked at. More then 400 miles range. Great deals on 2024 cars, especially for lease (it looks like leasing an EV is financially much better than buying one.) For my purposes though, it is huge. I need a personal commute/errands/fun car. At most 1 human or dog passenger and even that won’t be often.

You might check out the Volvo C40 and XC40. They’re shorter than you’d think.

Otherwise, if you’re not interested in something like a Chevy Bolt or Hyundai Kona then you’re likely jumping up a bit in length to cars like Polestar 2, ID.4, Ioniq 5, Q4 e-tron, Ariya, etc.

Screen-based functions are just a fact of life with most EVs but combined with voice commands and apps that allow things like remote AC/Heat control make the switch easier.

No SUVs or crossovers for me. That limits the selection.

The Bolt is coming back next year I believe?

The Volvos are very compact, more like Bolts. And super fast 0-60.