Will you buy an electric or hybrid car next?

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I wanted to throw this out since we are car shopping. I was interested in the Lincoln Corsair. I noticed the Grand Touring (top of the line) hybrid had fantastic rebates and incentives. We went to the dealer and test drove one of the hybrids. Ten seconds in we noticed the engine light on. Came back and the guy went in for keys to another one. Battery was dead and wouldn’t start.
He says well, it’s cold outside, and the batteries will die on these cars if not driven. Honestly it was 58 degrees out and it has not been bitterly cold here at all.
There were about 8 of the 2024 hybrids in stock and none of the gas models. It seems to me that there are a lot of issues with that model and people are avoiding them - especially if you can’t even test drive one!

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This!

The new Charger doesn’t have a trunk. Looks like a hatchback.

The ‘68-‘70 Chargers had trunks, their rear window doesn’t extend to the rear of the car. And had a trunk.

He was not talking of the hybrid battery. Every car, gas or EV or hybrid, has a 12 volt battery. Yes, it will die if the car is not driven for a long while. That’s not surprising. What is most surprising is that Lincoln is still a thing. :slight_smile:

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It’s surprising that the lot didn’t bother to have at least one car trickle charged so it could be driven as a demo. That’s really not customer friendly.

“Trickle charge” generally refers to charging the high voltage battery, not the replaceable one that you can buy at an auto shop or Costco. Yes, they should have kept those small 12v batteries checked and if needed charged. Doesn’t take much.

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“Trickle charge” could also refer to keeping 12V batteries topped up when a car is parked or stored for a while, and was used for this meaning before EVs became readily available.

Some manufacturers did try things like ship cars with solar panel trickle chargers so that the 12V batteries would not die in cars waiting to be sold. But that may not have been sufficient in a high latitude winter with cloudy weather.

If you have your own car parked for months, you can buy a trickle charger to plug into the wall receptacle and connect to the car’s 12V battery.

For folks considering hybrid, Car Car Nut youtube channel is interesting. The mechanic on it really likes the tried and true hybrid engine on Toyota Rav4, Crown Signia Lexus etc.

example videos

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If you’re not driving your cars for weeks at a time or you’re storing them, then a trickle charger is must. If not using a trickle charger, in these type of situations, then the AGM (absorbent glass mat) batteries, especially, will lose much of the lifespan.

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Note that EVs will automatically top up the 12V battery if the high voltage battery has enough charge. However, topping up the 12V battery will slowly consume the charge from the high voltage battery, so when it gets low enough when not plugged in, it will stop doing that in order to avoid over discharging and damaging the high voltage battery.

If it is necessary to park or store an EV for weeks or months, consult the owner’s manual for recommendations. If there is no specific recommendation, leaving it plugged in with the target charge set as low as possible is a reasonable way to minimize the risk to both the high voltage and 12V batteries (the high voltage battery could degrade more if stored at high state of charge).

Hmmm…. interesting. Would being parked at airport for 2.5 weeks (a common scenario for us) be a concern?

Usually, the concern about 12V battery discharging comes with longer term parking than that, unless the 12V battery is already weak and close to failure.

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It would also depend on the car and its relative drain.

I have an ICE car that will discharge/drain in 3 weeks or less, if not used.

I’ve replaced a lot batteries in my life.

If you don’t have one already, then I’d buy a portable battery charger and leave it in your car.

Also I’d buy a portable air compressor too. Just in case your tires look low. But that’s just me.

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just don’t forget to keep your portable charger charged.

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Something like this can also be used to top up car tires:

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Good suggestions. I’m hoping that the USAirport parking staff (or AAA) could help if needed in a pinch, but being ready with own equip couldn’t hurt.

Speaking of tires… any thoughts for the trend (I think mainly in hybrid/elec cars) to reduce weight and costs… provide no spare tire? Sometimes there is space to add on your own, sometimes not.

Any experience with the ride for run-flat tires? Replacement costs?

You better have big arms for that one. :rofl:

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I use this one. Cheap, fast and easy to use. No muscle needed.

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My 2024 Volvo S60 has no spare tire…and no place to put one even if I wanted one. Just a can of that stuff.

My 2012 didn’t have a spare tire either.

Just plain old ICE cars.

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