<p>I am curious to see if the tragic events surrounding the murdered student will affect people’s decision to apply.</p>
<p>I read somewhere that a Yale student was murdered back in 1998, as well, so it would be interesting to see if these have an effect on the number of applications.</p>
<p>Probably several hundred US citizens will die in auto accidents today. Will you still leave your house?</p>
<p>I know I’m being facetious but if life’s curious and sometimes tragic events have this much bearing on a potential applicant’s journey into higher education such as can be found at Yale, perhaps they should stay local instead.</p>
<p>My Junior year, my friend’s roommate was brutally attacked by a man with a steel pole in the middle of Beinekce plaza, just after dinner. There were probably 2 dozen people walking to and fro and a deranged man just came out of the bushes and started attacking this young lady without provocation. He was quickly tackled by other students and apprehended. My friend suffered a skull fracture and other serious but non- life threatening injuries. She eventually recovered but had to withdraw and came back a year later. She graduated with the class two years behind mine. I share this because this is a random an act as one can envisage short of a meteor atop one’s head. Was it horrible? Yes, just like Ms. Le’s homicide.</p>
<p>But should it make people wince and cower? I don’t think so and choose not to. Nor will I once I send my daughters to college – Yale or elsewhere.</p>
<p>A classmate of mine was murdered after our junior year . . . by her boyfriend, who had graduated from our residential college a year earlier. It was horrible, tragic, etc., but really had little to do with Yale, per se, other than that both people involved were students there. (It actually happened over summer break at her parents’ house.) It received plenty of publicity at the time, but did not affect applications or much of anything else.</p>
<p>A year later, another Yale friend and her roommate were brutally attacked while camping in the Blue Ridge Mountains right before school started. They both survived, but each has had lifelong limitations because of the attack. No one ever much connected that crime with Yale.</p>
<p>Yale is a pretty big community, the population of a small city if you consider all the students, faculty, and staff. In any population that size, there is going to be some crimes of passion, some random attacks by psychopaths, some cancer, some traffic accidents.</p>
<p>Of course. This is a one-off incident. Although it’s terrible and very sad, it cannot be used as an effective argument for regarding the campus or Yale as a whole, unsafe. It’s unfortunate events such as this that cause fear for the same reason that people are afraid of flying in case of a plane crash - what I mean is, when a plane does crash, the results are tragic, and in that case of isolation, everyone hears about it. But statistically it’s still the safest form of travel. What I’m trying to say is that while tragedy of Ms Le’s death seems like a grand widespread crime, in terms of the scale of Yale and all the students, it’s still an isolated incident.</p>
<p>We also still don’t know the circumstances behind the murder. I also just looked up details to see something about the other murder you mentioned as I hadn’t heard about it before, according to the couple of news sources I looked at, it took place just outside the campus.</p>
<p>In terms of crime rates in cities compared to campus community environments I think we can still regard Yale as safe. As long as students stay vigilant and exercise caution where necessary - ie don’t walk alone in the dark then I don’t believe there’s any cause for any action as drastic as not attending the university.</p>
<p>My thoughts and prayers go out to Annie Le and her family.</p>
<p>If you would consider sending your child to school in Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, etc., you shouldn’t have any reservations about sending your child to New Haven. And bear in mind that we still don’t know what happened here. If this is a jilted lover or an obsessed suitor, this would fall into the category of “it could happen anywhere.”</p>
<p>From the Yale Daily News:</p>
<p>Deputy Secretary Martha Highsmith, who oversees campus security, said earlier this week that access to the rooms and labs inside the building is restricted and digitally monitored. Authorities said they know who was in the basement at the time when Le entered.</p>
<p>Robert Alpern, dean of the Yale School of Medicine, where Le was studying for a Ph.D. in pharmacology, said in a telephone interview Sunday night that access to the basement where Le was found is limited to certain people with approved Yale magnetic identification cards, as it is at all University facilities where research is conducted on animals.</p>
<p>“I think that it suggests it was someone who could get into that space,” he said. “It certainly would be extremely difficult for someone from outside of Yale to get into that space. Not impossible, but extremely difficult.”</p>
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<p>Couple this with the reality that a significant percentage of murder victims are acquainted with their murderers and my sense is that we are likely to hear that this is a crime that could have occurred just about anywhere.</p>
<p>Both my kids are done with the college search as one is a freshman and the other a graduate, but these events would not have stopped my children from applying to Yale should they wish to (one did). Terrible things can happen anywhere. The only one at fault here is the perpetrator.</p>
<p><a href=“http://bbs.yale.edu/images/B10_1.pdf[/url]”>http://bbs.yale.edu/images/B10_1.pdf</a></p>
<p>^here is the link to the article that the victim (Annie Le) wrote regarding safety at Yale and the surrounding area.</p>
<p>I agree that the tragedy of Annie Le’s death is likely not to be a typical street crime where the assailant does not know the victim- unlike Christian Prince or presumably Suzanne Jovin (the most recent Yale students to be murdered).</p>
<p>But there’s no denying that New Haven is not a great place to be from a safety point of view (e.g. violent crime totals about the same as San Jose, CA with 10% of the population)… </p>
<p>but heinous crimes happen everywhere-</p>
<p>[Murders</a> of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom]Murders”>Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia)
U. Tennessee</p>
<p>[Murder</a> of Eve Carson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Eve_Carson]Murder”>Murder of Eve Carson - Wikipedia)
UNC</p>
<p>[Duke</a> grad student Abhijit Mahato found shot, police search for information. - 1/20/08 - Raleigh News - abc11.com](<a href=“http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=5903433]Duke”>http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=5903433)
Duke (same as Eve Carson’s killer)</p>
<p>[Columbia</a> Student Run Down, Killed While Fleeing Muggers - Gothamist](<a href=“http://gothamist.com/2008/04/05/columbia_studen_5.php]Columbia”>Columbia Student Run Down, Killed While Fleeing Muggers - Gothamist)</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336151,00.html[/url]”>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336151,00.html</a>
Auburn</p>
<p>This definitely will not affect my application to Yale</p>
<p>I’m just hoping it will convince others to not apply, so that it’s less selective this year! ^_^</p>
<p>^Yea, same ;]</p>
<p>In my impression from visiting many times, Yale is a much smaller and more tight-knit community than most colleges, not to mention one of the two best universities in the world according to the THES. That’s the only reason why these stories become big news. </p>
<p>It’s very different elsewhere. I was talking earlier this year with someone who has worked and lived at Columbia for the past 20 years, and she had never heard about the grad student who was killed in a mugging right by the campus last year.</p>
<p>The fact that Yale is close-knit is a huge positive: people care about each other, professors have students over for dinner, that sort of thing. It means that even if there is a minor crime issue, the entire community of 10,000 people will hear about it and be talking about it within a few minutes of the crime report.</p>
<p>Bottom line is that if you’re worried about safety issues, don’t go to a campus where you might be tempted to drive (like Dartmouth or Cornell), and if you go to any campus, be careful crossing the streets. Auto crashes kill about 2,000 to 4,000 college students each year, whereas homicides kill about 20.</p>
<p>I agree this could happen at any college. However, calling Yale “close knit” is a stretch. I went to Yale, I didn’t know people in other majors for the most part unless they were in my residential college. I certainkly didn’t know a fraction of the graduate students, especially those in the medical school or other graduate schools that were not nera me.</p>
<p>It is not a small, self-contained campus like Princeton. You walk around New Haven, mixing it up with everyone. On the other hand, it’s a great school.</p>
<p>I think one reason this story got so much publicity is because of the the circumstances - the student was missing and there was a search…and it continues since the murderer hasn’t been found.</p>
<p>If it had been “student killed in parking lot by ex-boyfriend” it probably would have been in the paper once and that was that.</p>
<p>I’d argue that this incident will, in fact, attract more applicants. “Why?”, you might ask. Well, ever heard of bad publicity is better than none? Though, not true in every occasion, I think it’s partially relevant to this occasion. Sure, Yale receives enough publicity, being an Ivy League university, but people will look less at the murder, and more at the fact that the mystery murder got national attention only because it happened at an Ivy League university. What I’m implying is that people will want that type of probable attention. Not necessarily the attention you’d get if murdered, but the attention you’d get in general in this society. Basically, that Ivy League tag. Many people want it, and I’m saying that after the news of the murder, more people will want to be in an Ivy League university, particularly Yale.</p>
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You can’t be serious! I think the fact that this poor woman was missing for 5 days before her storybook wedding makes it such a big story. There was speculation by many that she might have been the “Runaway Bride of 2009.”</p>
<p>The murder of Eve Carson was a national story, too, and she wasn’t even killed on the UNC campus. Here, Annie was murdered inside a campus building and there was no footage of her ever leaving. The fact that her body was discovered on the day of her wedding just makes the story that much more tragic.</p>
<p>The more I read about Annie Le the sadder I get about her passing. Unfortunately for all of us this a reminder that violence and evil are everywhere even at ivy league schools. It’s worth mentioning here that this past spring there was a murder in a Harvard DORM involving students and drug dealing. The deceased was not a student there which probably contributed to the fact that some people don’t even know this. All things considered, as a parent the harvard incident is much more disturbing to me by virtue of the fact that someone with a gun had gained access to a dorm.</p>
<p>“after the news of the murder, more people will want to be in an Ivy League university, particularly Yale.”</p>
<p>Hey, Sezon. Do you work for the Yale admissions office? Only an admissions officer could come up with that kind of logic.</p>
<p>I don’t think the murder will have much effect on applications, but I have a hard time seeing how it is a positive.</p>
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No, I don’t work with the Yale admissions committee, but I certainly wouldn’t mind if I were able to do so part-time. :D</p>
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Well, this isn’t the first murder to be committed on the campus of Yale, and hardly any of the past events are remembered in detail. What someone could say transpired from these murders are an increased amount of aspiring Ivy Leaguers. Let’s be honest, when people hear of a murder on a “random” person such as Annie, but also see Yale in the headlines, all that people (particularly the young) comprehend is the name ‘Yale’. Homicides happen on various college campuses every year, yet you don’t hear about them. I know of a recent murder that happened at Harding University, but it barely received local attention, let alone national. A student at Yale presumptively goes missing, and the whole nation is tuned in… because it’s Yale, an Ivy League university. For many of the young people of today, if an event doesn’t distinctly affect them or their friends and families, then they don’t care about it. You hear of selective hearing, well there is also selective reading, and, as aforementioned, people will only see the Yale in the headlines and want to go there because it receives that national attention that so many seek. The media knows this as well, and that’s why they choose to cover only those associated with the few renowned universities.</p>
<p>This incident clearly has very little to do with Yale. Anyone who has this affect their decision to apply is obviously really sheltered and doesn’t belong on this vibrant, urban campus.</p>
<p>I agree that the murders within the Harvard dorms were more disturbing. There was one recently, but others before that. </p>
<p>But in my opinion even more disturbing are the NYU and Columbia students who were recently killed in muggings (they got pushed into traffic and died, near the Columbia campus). What’s disturbing about those was that they were barely mentioned in the press.</p>
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so what is your explanation for why this and the other killings didn’t get much press at Harvard? Sorta debunks your theory, huh.</p>
<p>The Yale Murder got a lot a press because it snowballed. The whole mystery of Annie being missing before her wedding, etc. and then being found stuffed in the wall of a campus building (on the day of her wedding, no less) made this a sensational story. As for the NYU/Columbia kids who died while fleeing muggers, I don’t see those being comparable since (a) the killings didn’t happen on campus, (b) both victims were male, (c) neither victims went missing (the press loves these sort of stories), and (d) neither was getting married a week before their deaths. I think you are being delusional if you think otherwise…</p>