<p>So what’s a loser? Someone who fails his classes? Someone who does well in his classes but has low social skills? Someone who is not obsessed with career success? Someone who is arrogant and unfriendly? Someone who is a loner? Someone who is physically unattractive? Someone who dresses like a poor person? Someone who says dumb things? Someone who suffers from a noticeable mental illness?</p>
<p>Someone who makes these threads 
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<p>Someone who thinks that they are.</p>
<p>Whoever isn’t this guy –> </p>
<p>DCHurricane, why does creating these threads make me a “loser”? Think about the meaning of that word and tell me why I should accept that label.</p>
<p>It’s one of those “if you have to ask things”… </p>
<p>:cool:</p>
<p>I think a loser is someone who doesn’t try or make attempts to better themselves. They constantly make excuses to why they are the way they are by pointing the finger at everyone but themselves.</p>
<p>Many college students and others would consider a loser to be someone who constantly tries to fit in and constantly relies on others for reassurance. Having a great lack of confidence and a strong desire to please everyone = “loser” in many people’s opinion.</p>
<p>I’d define a loser as the kids who do poorly because they can’t balance getting high/drunk, and doing work. If someone is legitimately struggling that’s fine, but if they’re struggling because they get obliterated every night…total loser.</p>
<p>“Many college students and others would consider a loser to be someone who constantly tries to fit in and constantly relies on others for reassurance. Having a great lack of confidence and a strong desire to please everyone = “loser” in many people’s opinion.”</p>
<p>But that’s not the only attitude that will earn you that label. Sometimes, you can be the total opposite and still be called a “loser”, precisely for refusing to seek acceptance from the group.</p>
<p>IMO, though, losers are the main people who dwell on who’s rejecting them and what others think of them. Most people don’t care how they are viewed by groups that they are interested in being part of.</p>
<p>"Many college students and others would consider a loser to be someone who constantly tries to fit in and constantly relies on others for reassurance. Having a great lack of confidence and a strong desire to please everyone = “loser” in many people’s opinion. "</p>
<p>Is that what the “many people’s” opinions are or is that your opinion?</p>
<p>In my opinion, cabhax, what I stated is how many people define “loser.” It’s not as if there probably has been a statistically valid survey on the subject.</p>
<p>I also agree with the person here who stated that at least some college students view as losers the students who can’t balance their social lives with their academic lives – particularly students who spend the bulk of their time playing video games, getting high, drunk or laid while flunking out.</p>
<p>What’s your view on the subject?</p>
<p>Well I considered myself a loser for my first year of college. I ate most meals by myself, with either my ipod or a good book for company. I only left my room for meals and class. Didn’t socialize at all. And rarely went out. But I blame my social outcastedness on the fact that I really couldn’t stand the people there and didn’t feel any need to socialize with them.</p>
<p>I’m hoping that that all changes when I transfer schools though…</p>
<p>^ That sounds like me! I still eat meals by myself most of the time, but now when people text me to go hang out to eat, I take up their offer instead of giving them a lame excuse of how I’m not hungry. But I wouldn’t consider myself or you a “loser” because of that :(</p>
<p>"Well I considered myself a loser for my first year of college. I ate most meals by myself, with either my ipod or a good book for company. I only left my room for meals and class. Didn’t socialize at all. And rarely went out. But I blame my social outcastedness on the fact that I really couldn’t stand the people there and didn’t feel any need to socialize with them. "</p>
<p>I also like to eat my meals by myself. The only difference is that while I am aware that some people might consider me a “loser” for eating by myself, I can’t say that I consider myself a loser for doing something that I enjoy doing. It’s just the way I am. I am very introverted and feel uncomfortable when sharing my personal space with people that I am not very familiar with. Does it mean that my “loserdom” is a personal choice or also genetic or just a chemical imbalance? I think that people use the word “loser” too often and too loosely to describe people that they don’t approve of, but when you ask them why they consider those people “losers” they respond with circular logic. “He does X therefore he is a loser. He is a loser therefore he does X.” I ask the question from a psychological perspective. I want to understand why people call people they don’t approve of “losers”. Is it lack of a better word? In the case of people who like to eat by themselves, I would say they would be losers only if they forced themselves to eat accompanied out of fear that if they don’t they could be considered “losers.” We could argue that they are not losers, they are the opposite, since they are not afraid of being negatively evaluated by their peers. It takes some strength of character to do that. Strength of character is not a trait that I associate with “losers.”</p>
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<p>People have a certain worldview, and associate themselves with those who share the same/a similar worldview. For many people, if your behavior does not validate that worldview, there must be something wrong with you, and they will point this out to you and/or others. Using a label such as “loser” would be one of the most simplistic and easy ways of doing so. I would have expected a more developed response from college students though… do college students at your school really go around calling each other “losers”?</p>
<p>“I want to understand why people call people they don’t approve of “losers”. Is it lack of a better word?”</p>
<p>Yes it is exactly that. When I was in high school, someone who was not in the social circle or did what everyone else was doing was a “loser”. And that definition stuck with me in college, so since I became an introvert I labelled myself as a loser. Its not fair, or accurate but its convenient and unfortunate because of all the reasons you said.</p>
<p>But like sithis said, I think that the term “loser” is subjective and has to do with whether or not that person fits in with what your ideals are. Like a guy who gets stoned all the time and parties all the time may be considered “cool” by people who do the same as he does, while a person who is dedicated to their school work would consider him a “loser” and vice versa.</p>
<p>Losers come in many forms shapes and sizes.</p>
<p>There are the arrogant losers, who think they are hot stuff, but actually aren’t.
There are the narrow-sighted losers who are so focused on certain things that they completely forget to live a little.
There are the losers that feel desperate need for relationships/friends and will do anything and/or be anything to get these.
There are the losers who its quite clear that they just want to grub and network for anything they can get their hands on.
There are the losers who only talk about boring things like classes and homework.
And then there are losers who whine and complain about everything and just about anything they can think of.</p>
<p>These people are awful, but at the same time, they are not terribly hard to avoid. They’ve been losers all their lives, and its easy to spot them.</p>
<p>The ones that are hard to distinguish and hard to avoid are the self-obsessed. They aren’t exactly losers. They’re just pricks and brats who are 10 years behind on the maturity scale, and too socially inept to carry on a conversation that doesn’t revolve around their memories, their opinions, or their agendas.</p>