<p>A friend of mine had a face lift, D2 was around 10, she said, “Mommy, what happened to aunt K’s face, it doesn’t move any more.”</p>
<p>Oldfort’s post reminded me of when I was a teenager and women used to wire their teeth together as a way to lose weight. I was working at a dry cleaners and one woman came to get her dry cleaning and was angry at something that didn’t get cleaned right. She started yelling at me but of course couldn’t move her teeth, hysterical to watch but of course I couldn’t laugh.</p>
<p>Keep it up. Real convincing. I guess I like my craggy features just the way they are.</p>
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Get out of here! How would they get it done? Where? H would like to get my teeth wired together, but not to lose weight.</p>
<p>I also did laser treatment, The filler, botox don’t hurt much, more like wee pokes</p>
<p>When I was a teenager I had some ultra violet light treatment to get rid of acne, at the time very forward thinking, but it damaged my skin where I have a kind of rosacia, so the laser helped.</p>
<p>Now the bags under my eyes I have had since I was five…</p>
<p>^^Good one, oldfort!</p>
<p>I really would not want any foreign body or material injected into me unless it is critically needed, e.g., I would be crippled or dead without it. So any fillers are out. Eons ago when I was unhappy with my flabby stomach, I investigated liposuction - yikes, I did not liked the fact that it used ungodly amount of lidocaine, which is a very dangerous drug with what looks like a narrow therapeutic index (easy to overdose). Sure enough, not long after my research of the subject, a lady in our state died of lidocaine overdose after her lipo procedure. Double yikes. After that, pushups and planks seemed like a cake walk.</p>
<p>Wired teeth? I can tell you all that braces do not result in weight loss. 
I had them for 2 years, and I mastered eating everything my heart desired without ruining them - steak, apples, sticky candy, etc. Where there is a will, there is a way. :)</p>
<p>I’m using the Estee Lauder tanning “milk” every night and my spider veins seem to be fading to the point where I’m not worried about shorts and dresses. Maybe I can get away without the laser treatment. </p>
<p>I remember women wiring shut their jaws to get skinny. Sheesh!</p>
<p>I had my tonsils out a few years ago. After the surgery, everything tasted weird. I didn’t even like drinking water. I lost a lot of weight for awhile, but it came back. Stuff still doesn’t taste the same, but I obviously adjusted. The ENT doctor said he doesn’t know why it happened to me, although when I googled the subject, I found that other people complained of the same phenomenon.</p>
<p>Anyway, it surprised me that I could gain weight even food didn’t taste that great!</p>
<p>I think when food does not taste ‘right’ you keep testing and tasting searching for the correct taste.</p>
<p>I would do botox for the 11’s between my eyes, but I cannot imagine letting someone cut on my face. Like your eyes, if they cut the extra lids out and stitch it up, there will be that scar. I have tiny 1 inch scars, not on my face, from surgery a few years ago, they still are quite tender and I cannot put anything snug on them. I would hate to have scar on my face feel weird like that. Do they put it in your eyebrows?</p>
<p>My friend’s H had bags under his eyes tighten. He was out having dinner with us next day. I didn’t notice any scars. He didn’t look that different, but just less tired. I am also afraid to have any surgery done, but may consider this at some point.</p>
<p>I have very different feelings about putting an artificial substance/object in my body than about trimming or rearranging what’s already there. If it felt like something was taking over my face, that is the one kind of surgery that I can see having someday. Knock wood, I’m not there yet, but if big gray pouches grow under my eyes, I expect that I will have them removed.</p>
<p>I loved getting the filler and botox, people say i look good but can’t really put their finger on it. I look less sad or mad. </p>
<p>Also got bangs.</p>
<p>I don’t think I will have anything done on my face, but I’ve worn pretty short hair much of my life, and I appreciated not having to mess with it much.
But while it has always had a bit of wave to it, it’s now getting even more so, which makes it harder to style, and with age I think I need a bit more hair so I am growing it out a little.
You also have to wear more eye makeup with really short hair ( or at least you do with blond eyelashes), and it is just so tedious to apply.</p>
<p>I did get Botox into the frontalis muscle a few years ago, I had the 11 lines from squinting, and H would accuse me of being angry when I wasn’t. It lasted for a really long time ( & didn’t hurt), but the NP who did it, has gone back to his day job of cancer research and I think the clinics in town are really overpriced.</p>
<p>However the plastic surgeon who did my breast reduction did a meticulous job, and if I ever did decide to do anything else I know who I would go to!</p>
<p>Late to the party, but I am on the side of not getting anything done. Like Popeye, I am what I am. That is not to say that I am not trying to get rid of the stubborn weight gain menopause and back-to-work gifted me. I have been dragging my rear out of bed at 4:50 a.m. every week day since mid-December to hit the gym. I don’t believe in scales so don’t know what I have lost … but I am almost back to my comfortably thin self. Staying thin is my “to do” through the aging process, because I feel my best when I don’t have extra weight. I am also still coloring my gray, and I don’t know when that will end … not ready to make that change yet. But the cost of the gym & the color are small. I am too cheap to pay for anything more expensive!</p>
<p>^^^^^same here!</p>
<p>I never thought this would have this benefit, but by working in an office all my adult life, I realize now I have avoided a lot of casual sun damage I would have incurred if I’d been home with my kids more. I’m sure I never would have used sunscreen on a daily basis like you’re supposed to. So the real fountain of youth? Never see the light of day!</p>
<p>Sewhappy, how is the odor of the Estee Lauder tanning product? I absolutely hate the smell of most self tanners. It bothers me so much that it keeps me awake at night. Some products tend to add extra scent in an effort to cover it up but that makes it worse for me. I’d love to find one that doesn’t have that odor but I suspect that it is the active ingredient that is the culprit and my search is fruitless.</p>
<p>A co-worker has been getting Botox on her 11’s. She just had filler put in her nasolabial lines yesterday. It actually looks really good. I can’t bring myself to do Botox - something about that word * neurotoxin * creeps me out but I think I’m going to try fillers. My sister has it done on her nasolabial lines and under her eyes and I swear she looked ten years younger. I was showing my co-workers her before and after pictures and they couldn’t believe the difference. The trick is to find a good injector.</p>
<p>^^ Momlive- did she say how much it hurt? I heard Botox doesn’t hurt much at all but the fillers do. Maybe like oldfort said it’s because of the location of the injections.</p>