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<p>Wait…seriously? I don’t know what “smokers mouth” is but it sounds awful. I sip water through a straw all day long at work!!! I have for 20 years - I seriously just took out my mirror - what am I supposed to worry about exactly?</p>
<p>I guess from reading all of these posts, most of us are ready to give up yet. 
I say, good for us. Nice to share some of our personal remedies.</p>
<p>My dermatologist did a ‘levulun blu-light’ treatment on me in January. The reason is that I have lots of sun damage and pre-cancerous scaly spots on my forehead & nose. I was red as a beet for 2 days, then peeled like I had been in a fire - it was disgusting, however my skin was soft and smooth for several months. I didn’t need foundation. I will probably do it again in the late fall (after beach season). </p>
<p>One way to firm up thighs is spin class, squats & lunges.</p>
<p>I assume “smoker’s mouth” is the fine lines that form above the upper lip from puckering lips.</p>
<p>Yup that’s smokers mouth or lips…</p>
<p>mamabear and sunnyholiday, I too could join that club. I don’t own make-up, never colored my hair, had a manicure or pedicure and don’t care or understand about fashion. I have told my H how low maintenance I am, but I don’t think he appreciates it.</p>
<p>Check out the link to Ellen vs Michelle in the Exercise thread posted by idad. Ellen is 54 - she looks great, IMO. :)</p>
<p>I hear 50 is the new 35. ;)</p>
<p>nj2012Mom- my dermatologist has suggested such a peel. How many days till you felt your could go out of the house?</p>
<p>“Smoker’s mouth” is one reason I quit at 27 - I didn’t want my skin to look as horrible as the women in the photographs with the article I read on it. My skin looks OK, but it’s always been very oily, which has turned out to be a good thing. I’ve thought about trying skin care products, such as RoC or Olay Regenerist, but I can never figure out what I should use, when should I use it, etc.</p>
<p>Brought it over cause I love Ellen and Michelle and this is sweet! Not shabby for either of them - Ellen at 54, Michelle at 48!!!</p>
<p>[Can</a> Ellen Do More Push-Ups Than Michelle Obama? - YouTube](<a href=“Can Ellen Do More Push-Ups Than Michelle Obama? - YouTube”>Can Ellen Do More Push-Ups Than Michelle Obama? - YouTube)</p>
<p>“Another hint. Don’t use straws, it’s gives you smokers mouth.”</p>
<p>So do the bottles with the tops that pop up that you sip out of. :(</p>
<p>My dermatologist’s instructions of staying out of direct light weren’t too clear to me, so I went to the gym at 6am, then to work the next day…bad idea, by 2pm, my eyes were nearly swollen shut (had the procedure at 5pm day before) and I ended up getting a cortisone shot. (they told me I had one of the ‘best’ reactions they had seen!) The next day I spent the day at home with all lights turned off, but needed to officiate a swim meet that evening. The nasty peeling started 2 days after and took 2-3 more days, but I lived with the benefit for 3+ months.</p>
<p>Gosh, nj, that sounds awful. </p>
<p>I had my second sublative laser treatment yesterday so I am also red as a beet for a few days. </p>
<p>Happy I only have one more treatment to go. After that I am definitely getting botox for the 11’s. According to my doctor, like muscles have memory so do wrinkles, so the deep ones really need botox to freeze them.</p>
<p>Ditto on bangs being a good thing.</p>
<p>How long does Botox, for the 11’s for instance, last?</p>
<p>Went to a grad dinner tonight and sat across from a 50-ish very stylish mom who had been lifted at some point (there’s a look to the mouth that doesn’t come from anything but a facelift) and botoxed. She looked really good. But clearly is working hard at it. I’ll go as far as expensive creams but a facelift - no.</p>
<p>Ditto bugmom. All natural here and in pretty good shape–except for being a bit underweight. (My secret? Drink tea!) Feeling a little pressured on the hair dye since I still have elementary school kids, but holding out. (Shocked to hear moms 5-15 years younger talking about botox. . .Please.) Glad I don’t live in the corporate world–I certainly could be a candidate for What Not to Wear. I go for simplicity and comfort always. Never wear heels or jewelry, either. Everyone looks good with a smile.</p>
<p>I don’t need botox, with the right make up I can look 10 to 15 years younger. But I don’t brag about not wearing make up, I just don’t because of time. No facelift for me because it seems painful.</p>
<p>Botox usually lasts for 6 months.</p>
<p>I’ll join the bug woman group. No makeup,no hair dye, no high heels… never had a pedicure or manicure…but a big fan of alegria shoes and soft footbed Birkenstocks. Think of all the money I didn’t spend!!!</p>