Women Walking and Harassment

<p>Does the video explain what neighborhood the filming was done in? The Bronx and Queens atmosphere will differ drastically from Battery Park city or the Upper East Side. Socio-economics, immigrant populations and macho/rap cultures contribute to varied displays of harassment. </p>

<p>The rap culture was not big here in my town in the late 70s/early 80s. So please, let’s not blame it on rap. It’s what I call old fashioned home training. I would remove my sons teeth if I ever saw him behaving in this manner. @rhandco, walking in what manner? I don’t walk like a model and sure as hell don’t look like an actress and have always been harassed. </p>

<p>Here we go again, blaming the women for walking down the street, Geesh.</p>

<p>Wait. Is someone walking in front of her with a camera? Because that’s going to attract some attention, too.</p>

<p>@WasatchWriter‌ </p>

<p>Yelling DAMN!! Is a compliment. It’s disgusting, but a compliment nonetheless.</p>

<p>Well, let’s focus on one example–guys who say “Damn!” when an attractive woman passes buy. I’ve seen this happen lots of times. Do these guys actually think they are delivering a compliment that will be appreciated? Are there women who react to such comments as positive compliments? It seems to me that most women ignore or react negatively to these comments, so the men making them can’t really believe they are wanted. I think it’s a form of aggressive behavior, mainly.</p>

<p>Yes, it’s a compliment. Lol trust me on this on @Hunt‌ </p>

<p>When I was teaching in a not so nice part of the Bronx, I was only cat-called once on my mile walk to and from the school. I now work in a very nice part of Brooklyn, and am regularly treated to creepy comments and “compliments”, even when I’m walking around in modest teacher clothes. It’s really all about exerting power. Even innocuous words (calling me “beautiful”) become creepy when someone is two to three times my age and old enough to be my father.</p>

<p>The camera was hidden in a backpack worn by a guy walking in front of her. The street harassers didn’t know about it.</p>

<p>I make an important distinction between a compliment and one that you think the recipient might appreciate. I think when the guy says “Damn!” he probably does think the woman is attractive. But what is he trying to communicate to her?</p>

<p>If someone yelled “DAMN” at me, I would not feel complimented. Having someone say, “Good morning/afternoon/evening” politely doesn’t necessarily become harassment, if you aren’t belligerent if the other person chooses to ignore you or not respond. I often say that to men and women (strangers) I see. </p>

<p>Following someone is creepy, as is yelling at the individual, making gestures, or doing anything to intimidate another. </p>

<p>The video has had over 5 million views. One does wonder where the camera was, as it doesn’t appear to be attached to the model. </p>

<p>I admit I never not had this level of heckling when I walk anywhere alone, but tend to be pretty selective about my routing and tend not to walk near construction sites or places where males congregate and I’m the only woman walking alone. </p>

<p>I wrote that “Damn!” is a compliment. Was that not clear? I also wrote that it’s not ONLY a compliment. Given the context (yelling at a stranger on the open street) there is a lot more packed into that word.</p>

<p>As to women responding positively, I think that depends on their age, where they’ve lived, and so on.</p>

<p>“Always been harassed”? That is shocking. Where do you hang out? Do you get asked out? Do you get asked for your phone number? At what point is it someone trying to talk to you, and at what point is it harassment?</p>

<p>I just never experienced or have seen this happening, while in college, in big cities, in bad areas, etc. I dress conservatively. The woman in the video was wearing TIGHT as in spray-on almost jeans, she was wearing heavy makeup, and she had a microphone in each hand (which you can see she has a black long thing in each hand pretty clearly. “You don’t wanna talk?” is the comment shown here:
<a href=“The disappointing aftermath of that viral street harassment PSA | Mashable”>The disappointing aftermath of that viral street harassment PSA | Mashable;
Sexual harassment? Uh, how is that?</p>

<p>On that note:
<a href=“Man walking in NYC is 'harassed' in a very different way | Mashable”>Man walking in NYC is 'harassed' in a very different way | Mashable;

<p>I have to think some posters have been harassed and harassed by people of varying colors. My wife has been harassed. My wife will not walk alone at night. </p>

<p>My daughter was walking on Market Street in SF and some jerk started harassing her and then spit all over my daughter. She went home and took a very long shower.</p>

<p>And worse exists. </p>

<p>Rhandco’s stories must be very bad. Sorry Rhandco. </p>

<p>Just because she is wearing tight clothes does NOT give those people the right to harass her.</p>

<p>I live in the same city this was filmed. I dress conservatively too (again, not that what someone is wearing is an excuse EVER), and I get this behavior directed at me frequently enough. Saying: “Good morning” may SOUND innocent enough, but it’s very clear, especially in real life, when someone does it sincerely/friendly and when someone is trying to harass you. </p>

<p>The behavior in the video is not OK, and I wish people would stop making excuses for it.</p>

<p>In my mind, a couple of those guys are clearly harassing her. A couple of the others, I’m not so sure, but I tend to think the “Damn” comments are improperly aggressive when aimed at a total stranger. I don’t think her outfit is provocative at all–but she is attractive.</p>

<p>Some of this, I think, is what used to be referred to as unwanted “familiarity.” As a middle-aged white male, I don’t encounter this often, but occasionally I do, with somebody asking me questions and trying to strike up a conversation when I clearly don’t want to. I find it highly annoying. I think it has to be much worse when it happens a lot, and is sexualized.</p>

<p>“I think it has to be much worse when it happens a lot, and is sexualized.” <— This. Exactly how I feel.</p>

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<p>Lol @rhandco‌ </p>

<p>Tight jeans are the norm for many people. Even men wear tight jeans. I don’t hang out anywhere. My usual dress are yoga pants/hoodies, t-shirts, Danskos, flip flops, UGGS, I’m a 45 year old mother of 2. I find your line of questioning to be very condescending and odd. Do you have daughters?</p>

<p>I guess you didn’t read my post about being at the fish counter? In line at the bank? In front of my DDs school at dismissal? Even some of my own neighbors have said things as recently as this year. Yes, many ask for contact info, ask if they can take me out, some make comments about my body parts & what they’d like to do with them (that sprouted out when I was 11 or so). Like I said, I have dealt with this all my life. Most of those comments were rude and trying to engage the young woman who was minding her own damn business. </p>

<p>You get tired of men telling you to “smile” or if you don’t respond to their comments, they say “You can’t speak?” </p>

<p>For someone who finds this behavior to be foreign, you can’t speak to it. </p>

<p>What you indicate, @dstark, is very clearly a crime. Why was it not reported to the police? Spitting on someone is assault, let alone a minor. I’ve threatened to kill people on rare occasions (about three times ever) when someone was harassing me or my spouse (not sexually harassing, situational). </p>

<p>I drive through an area where there are windshield guys, there are guys and even gals selling newspapers in the streets, giving out pamphlets, harassing drivers at stop lights or if traffic is heavy.</p>

<p>It just does not bother me. I also worked in a place with a lot of union presence (blue-collar union, not teacher union), and the (mostly) guys were banned from swearing in front of non-union people, especially women. I once was driving through security and two guys were swearing a blue streak, not just the normal words you might hear, but some really colorful other words and phrases. I told them to shut the (insert foul combination of the f word and several others here) up, or they (repeat the word) well would get busted by the boss. They laughed and laughed.</p>

<p>At some point, either it is a one-time occurrence or it is not. And either it is a crime or it is not. If they are trying to bring attention to horrible situations where women are indeed sexually harassed, like specifically regarding sex acts or continuing following someone (stalking), I don’t think they did a good job.</p>

<p>My goodness, at least she could have worn pants that weren’t sized for a toddler.</p>

<p>Acollegestudent, I agree with you. I don’t know why people make excuses for this behavior. People are afraid to admit things. This behavior is not acceptable. Whites do it too. </p>

<p>That women are harassed while walking alone is a very big issue. I can see why men don’t get it…actually no I can’t.</p>