“Well ladies, I will no longer stand in line to use the women’s restroom, if it’s an emergency. I will use the men’s room and there should be no argument. (Unfortunately, men’s rooms are usually disgustingly filthy).”
For the single-room types (such as at Starbucks) where you enter the room, lock it and you are by yourself, yes, if the women’s is occupied for a while or there is a line, I’ve gone into the men’s. I don’t really GAS if someone stares when I come out. Interestingly, I happened to notice at a SBX I recently stopped at that instead of designating one as male and the other as female, both bathrooms had both male and female symbols. Which really makes sense. It’s just 2 private bathrooms, really.
“Well ladies, I will no longer stand in line to use the women’s restroom, if it’s an emergency. I will use the men’s room and there should be no argument. (Unfortunately, men’s rooms are usually disgustingly filthy).”
No one is going to bat an eye if you use the men’s room.
As far as I can tell, the only untoward thing going on in this country is one guy, objecting to laws protecting trans individuals ,who decided to expose himself in a woman’s locker room in Seattle to make a point.
Do we know of any other incidents? Because this idea men should protest by showing their stuff in the women’s room is all over the internet. I’m very sorry for the young girls who were offended, but having great difficulty keeping a straight face myself. I hope none of these guys are dangerous. They are certainly misguided.
@alh A Big fat zero: Spokespeople from the Transgender Law Center, the Human Rights Campaign and the American Civil Liberties Union told Mic that no statistical evidence of violence exists to warrant this legislation. … and The Advocate noted the same glaring fact last month regarding Texas’ bathroom legislation: “There has never been a verifiable reported instance of a trans person harassing a cisgender person, nor have there been any confirmed reports of male predators ‘pretending’ to be transgender to gain access to women’s spaces and commit crimes against them.”
No State has shown any cases of this ever happening w regard to (REAL) trans individuals… now others have shown here boys (not trans) have gone into into gender neutral to take pictures…
BTW I have read numerous accounts of men placing hidden cameras in restrooms to catch a glimpse of women’s genitals… but that is another problem entirely. The trans problem is fabricated.
Who would risk potentially being labeled a sexual predator or a sex offender? I don’t think this is going to become a trend at all. That follows you forever and you have to register etc…
At my former alma mater, the old dorms with the gang showers have been torn down. They were replaced with dorms that have suite style units and thus semi-private bathrooms and showers. Much better for many reasons.
Cakes and bathrooms. If these problems can’t be solved in a humane, reasonable way one wonders what the future holds for all of the other issues requiring some level of consensus that desperately need attention in our county.
Just to put this out of the theoretical: it’s very easy for any commercial gym to partition some area for ANY need - family who change together, kids, trans person.
As for locker room in high schools, many teenagers would welcome partitions.
So, no gym is losing women’s business because of trans women.
In general (there are exceptions) the New York State building code requires you to label one Male and one female. I did have a building code official tell me privately that we could take down the signs after the inspection - he knew that yoga and dance classes were likely to have far more women than men.
I get really irritated by all the Moms who bring their boys into the adult women’s locker room. Their are girl and boy locker rooms, but the adult room is bigger and closer to the pool. And amazing number of boys apparently can’t get dressed on their own which is what mine did when they were young.
I brought sons with me into the women’s toilet and locker room when they were small because they really couldn’t be counted on to behave. They turned off the lights, unrolled tissue, took things apart. Anyone who knew us was sympathetic. Eventually they aged out of that phase. A bit.
Osprey, yes, literally a “crappy” job (post #712).
While the NC legislators are at it, perhaps they should clarify the genders of those two on the state seal. I’m pretty sure the one on the right must have had a male birth certificate. Enquiring minds want to know! Ironically, the state motto translates as “To be, rather than to seem.” How weird is that???
PLEASE SEE>>> the US Commission on Civil Rights has issued a statement CONDEMNING Recent State Laws and Pending Proposals Targeting LGBT!
“Religious freedom is an important foundation of our nation. However, in the past, ‘religious liberty’ has been used to block racial integration and anti-discrimination laws. Those past efforts failed and this new attempt to revive an old evasive tactic should be rejected as well. The North Carolina and Mississippi laws, and similar legislation proposed in other states, perverts the meaning of religious liberty and perpetuates homophobia, transphobia, marginalizes the transgender and gay community and has no place in our society. "
The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights is an independent, bipartisan agency charged with advising the President and Congress on civil rights matters and issuing a federal civil rights enforcement report.