<p>Collegehelp, those are electrical engineers, a very specific subset. Most Ivy engineers go into non-engineering fields like finance or consulting.</p>
<p>everyone seems to hate on cornell so much, lmao</p>
<p>Except for the 3,000 students who enroll and the 19,000 who are rejected each year.</p>
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<p>woah here people all of the ivy leagues are amazing!!! To be able to get accepted into any one of them is splendid. They are all great, some might be more reputable (harvard, yale, princeton), but that doesn’t mean that they are necessarily better. It all depends on your own opinion and on what you are going to major in.</p>
<p>i love how everyone wants to rank a school according to their own guidelines, they dont realize that in the real world, prestiege is more important than a ‘good undergraduate education’. whether you like it or not, people from harvard will get the interview at the very least (if not necessarily the job).<br>
those who rank cornell last do not realize that on an international scale, very few have even heard about dartmouth or brown… but most of the other ivies</p>
<p>Cornell’s standard’s are lower than the other Ivies. I suggest Brown.</p>
<p>But Cornell has some highly specialized and unusual colleges that are nevertheless the best in their fields. Cornell Engineering and Arts and Sciences are on par with other Ivies in terms of admissions standards. Architecture, Agriculture, Industrial and Labor Relations…they are nevertheless the very best in those fields.</p>
<p>collegehelp is right. </p>
<p>At least 3 of the colleges at Cornell rely heavily on certain qualities that an SAT exam cannot measure - for AAP it’s the portfolio (easily the most important part of the application) and for schools like hotel and ILR, it’s extensive work or study in the area or field they teach. As one ILR adcom put it, “it’s not who we let in and what their scores were, but rather who we don’t let in and what their scores were.” Needless to say, architecture, hotel administration, and ILR are each the most highly regarded programs of their kind in the US.</p>
<p>Collegehelp, those are electrical engineers, a very specific subset. Most Ivy engineers go into non-engineering fields like finance or consulting.</p>
<p>Of course most ivy engineers go to non-engineering fields, because no serious engineer would look at ivy school other than Cornell and because engineers at non-Cornell Ivies know that their college’s programs suck such so much there’s no chance for them to get employed as engineers or go to presitgious graduate schools. Cornell, on the other hand, does not suffer this syndrome.</p>
<p>Okay, the above is an exaggeration, but nonetheless your statement that 50% of Cornell engineers don’t go into engineering or related fields is frankly, crap. </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.engineering.cornell.edu/student-services/engineering-coop-career-services/statistics/Engineering-Post-Graduate-Survey-Results.cfm[/url]”>http://www.engineering.cornell.edu/student-services/engineering-coop-career-services/statistics/Engineering-Post-Graduate-Survey-Results.cfm</a></p>
<p>The only major that has a large amount of non-engineer/scientists is Operations Research and Industrial Engineering, which is specifically designed for business-oriented engineers. All other majors have the majority of their graduates go on to graduate engineering degrees or engineering jobs, and most of the rest go on to related fields such as the sciences or medicine.</p>
<p>I think the general consensus is Cornell. I’m not bashing it, but compared to the ivies, it’s definitely what people say “the easiest ivy to get into, the hardest to graduate from” but it’s still a great school. </p>
<p>I don’t know… Columbia doesn’t really have anything that stands out to me other than their location. I mean it is a great school, but i’d much rather go to Upenn for their strengths in business and medicine than for Columbia’s strength in NYC… and as for Dartmouth, it seems more in the group w/amherst and williams. imho</p>
<p>BROWN! stupid bastards…</p>
<p>What a terrible question. </p>
<p>It makes no sense at all and only compounds the beclouded ignorance of those intrigued by its cluelessness; that is to say, the type of student that would be looking to attend an Ivy because it is known as an Ivy, rather than as a specific school with specific features.</p>
<p>All 8 schools are so different, in most every regard, that only a fool would consider any 4 of them in their top choices.</p>
<p>Harvard, Yale, Penn have much in common and are still extremely different.</p>
<p>Dartmouth, Princeton and Brown have much in common and are still decidedly different.</p>
<p>Columbia is a great cosmopolitan school more than anything else, defined by its relationship to NYC.</p>
<p>Cornel has much to compare it to UMich, Berkeley, UCLA, and little in common with Princeton, Dartmouth or Yale.</p>
<p>^ I would in general agree with your points, except the last one. In fact, those were the four Ivys I applied to. For starters, they are the least urban of the Ivy Schools and if you just focus on CAS or even certain aspects of CALS, Engineering, ILR at Cornell, it is relatively similar to the others in course offerings as well.</p>
<p>Hansen, you’re absolutely right! If we don’t get into Harvard, or even Yale or Princeton, we may as well give up on life! Because everyone knows that the C student at Harvard goes miles farther than the A+ honors student at Pitt!</p>
<p>GreatGuru - Congratulations for getting accepted to those 3 schools! I personally recommend Brown because of the open circulum.</p>
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In fact, there are no ‘c’ students at Harvard, as Harvard does not give out ‘c’s’. </p>
<p>Grade inflation, you know.</p>
<p>My 2 cents : Cornell has the highest undergrad suicide rate of any university in the states.
Take a hint.
Social life, studies, or sleep.
Choose two.</p>
<p>newfoundgirlie-
Your statement about Cornell suicides is untrue and irresponsible.</p>
<p>This entire thread is just insane, because it implies that at this point, all of us CC-ers are so… into colleges that even the Ivies have been divided into tiers. I sense that some people would actually look down at people who are from cornell or any of those so-called lower-tier ivies just because they are less selective or something, just from reading this thread.</p>