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<p>Please fill out your information IF you were admitted to at least two of HYPSM.
Thank you!</p>
<p>-PS you waitlistees will like it!</p>
<p>as a waitlistee, I definitely like the look of that thread so far.</p>
<p>me too 
well not for Stanford. But for Princeton.</p>
<p>This is the best thing I’ve seen all day. Thanks, OP!</p>
<p>Love,
A waitlistee :)</p>
<p>I feel the same as a waitlistee. =]</p>
<p>aww thanks It was like an epiphany haha… I didn’t want to bother that admissions office to see what their Projected Yield is… because that is really uncertain in this economic turmoil. And I figure people admitted into one of HYPSM will most likely choose it over any other school (most likely… not all). So I was thinking… what are the cross-admits going to do? Even though this is a small sample, it will most likely grow, and hopefully put some of us at ease.</p>
<p>I hope we all get off our respective WLs!</p>
<p>FWIW, last year, Stanford “won” more cross-admits between MIT and Princeton, tied exactly with Yale, and lost slightly to Harvard (according to the dean of admissions).</p>
<p>^ Do they actually know where other students were admitted?</p>
<p>Btw, look what I found! [The</a> Stanford Flipside Stanford May or May Not Hold Waitlist Weekend Sometime in the Middle of June](<a href=“http://stanford.edu/group/stanfordflipside/cgi-bin/?p=2393]The”>http://stanford.edu/group/stanfordflipside/cgi-bin/?p=2393)</p>
<p>Last year Princeton won against Stanford for cross-admits.</p>
<p>“FWIW, last year, Stanford “won” more cross-admits between MIT and Princeton, tied exactly with Yale, and lost slightly to Harvard (according to the dean of admissions).”</p>
<p>Please don’t make false claims. Last Year Stanford tied with Yale, and lost to Princeton and Harvard.</p>
<p>[Faculty</a> Senate minutes - June 12, 2008 meeting](<a href=“You’ve requested a page that no longer exists | Stanford News”>You’ve requested a page that no longer exists | Stanford News)</p>
<p>Stanford has historically won against Princeton, and the senate meeting minutes are a bit wishy-washy in the answer last year.</p>
<p>I wonder, also, why you make a single post in favor of Princeton on Stanford’s forum, hallowarts. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Phantasmagoric, just read the minutes. The data are all there! They’re not wishy-washy at all. The only other cross-admit data I can find are over five years old, and show that the Princeton/Stanford split is about 50/50, with a 1% or so tip to S.</p>
<p>I read the minutes, thanks, but we were never presented with any actual data for this.</p>
<p>Furthermore, that other study you cite is heavily slanted toward the Northeast.</p>
<p>The minutes say that more people went to Princeton instead compared to last year, but it doesn’t actually say what % of people who got into both chose Princeton.</p>
<p>It says that YS split their cross-admits. It then tells you what number of students picks Y over S and the % of non-enrolling students who picked Y. You can then find the total number of non-enrolling students. You can then find the number of non-enrolling students who picked P over S. Unless the number of PS cross-admits is significantly higher than that of YS cross-admits, P wins the battle (also, why would Mr. Shaw mention Y but not HP if they beat them in cross-admits?). </p>
<p>And I’m honestly not bashing S, I almost chose it. And you’re right, we don’t technically know. But given what we do know, I don’t think it’s a stretch.</p>
<p>
07: “Yale 19 percent, MIT 15 percent, and Princeton 7 percent”
08: “rose to 18.2% for Princeton, but dropped to 12.5% for Yale”</p>
<p>Unless you believe that Princeton had an absolutely HORRIBLE cross-admit yield rate in '07 (was Stanford bragging about it then?), you can see that these numbers don’t help us here.</p>
<p>Wasn’t '07 the first cycle without ED?</p>
<p>Yes, that was me this year – Princeton was ultimately top choice, Stanford second (although visits left me undecided). </p>
<p>But in '07, PYS all had ED. </p>
<p>"Said Dean Shaw, “This is not official yet, but I think it’s important. Remember that Harvard and Princeton eliminated their early [admissions] programs. So we’re seeing more overlap [now] with Princeton. Harvard is still first, [now] followed by Princeton [which jumped up two places over Yale and MIT].”</p>
<p>This would obviously explain the increase in non-S-en. students going to P. However, it does leave unanswered the reason for the numbers in '07, or rather why P is so low. I still don’t see why this means that the data is inaccurate or useless</p>
<p>We still know the number of YS cross-admits. We also know the number of PS admits. Given that PYS no longer have ED, Y and S are getting early applicants that would have otherwise applied to HP. Unless there’s a particularly compelling reason that the YS cross-admits were significantly fewer than the PS cross-admits, the 6% difference seems pretty significant.</p>
<p>Sorry Baelor, I deleted my post. I was saying the extra percentage was Princeton wannabes. Just don’t want to say too much since the decision has been made.</p>
<p>So the numbers for this year:</p>
<p>Total non-Stanford enrolling cross-admits: 640</p>
<p>Those attending Princeton: 116
Those attending Yale: 80</p>
<p>The total number of Yale-choosing cross-admits is 160
The total number of Princeton-choosing cross-admits, given a 50-50 split, is 232, or a 45% increase over the number of Yale cross-admits. Of course, this includes PS admits who were also accepted elsewhere as far as I can tell.</p>
<p>Of course, it’s certainly possible that PS overlap was 50% larger than YS admits.</p>