<p>heh…well, she got her 15 minutes…ah well…</p>
<p>I’m calming down now. Have to admit she got my motor running. If that was her intention. Oh my.</p>
<p>It’s a hoax. My daughter said people were protesting outside the President’s office today.</p>
<p>[FOXNews.com</a> - Yale Officials Conclude Student’s Shocking Claim of ‘Abortion Art’ Was 'Creative Fiction - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News](<a href=“http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351608,00.html]FOXNews.com”>Abortion | Fox News)</p>
<p>Creative is not the word I would use. Sick and depraved seem to fit the bill more. What really gets me is that Yale is going to display this rot (fiction or not) and host a reception for the “artist” as if it <em>were</em> art. For heaven’s sake, will someone please inform the emporor he’s in the altogether.</p>
<p>huguenot, it isn’t real.</p>
<p>And Yale costs how much a year? I’d ask for my money back if this type of ‘creative fiction’ is encouraged. Good grief…</p>
<p>enderkin, it is “real”, it just isn’t what the student claimed it was. The display plus the phony press release plus the ensuing hullabaloo are all part of the project. This note is from the story that appeared <em>after</em> Yale met with the student and determined the pregnancies and abortions did not occur:</p>
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<p>So, it appears that there is an actual project that is to be displayed.</p>
<p>Here is the latest from the YDN [Yale</a> Daily News - The Nation’s Oldest College Daily](<a href=“http://yaledailynews.com/]Yale”>http://yaledailynews.com/)</p>
<p>It sounds unclear to me. I don’t think this kind of thing is encouraged. I think a student decided to do something pretty out there. She apparently sent a press release yesterday to the YDN which they published without checking the facts carefully. What is not clear to me is if she was honest with her adviser or what the adviser did or did not know. Apparently the adviser is a visiting professor. This is one student and one project. It is not reasonable to judge an entire university and every program and class taught there by one senior project. Senior projects are original works and they are independent projects. Also, I think it’s hard to tell what really happened – what she told administrators or what she is saying to the YDN or what? If her whole project, as she says, is about ambiguity, then she is playing it to the hilt by not letting one version of what happened stand. Frankly, it’s hard for me to imagine some guy or guys routinely just handing over sperm for her senior project.</p>
<p>To me, it is repulsive, gross and disgusting. It shocks and horrifies me. It makes me question my own attitude towards abortion. But I would have to say without a doubt it is original and creative. I would have to say it is brilliant. To me, it is art.</p>
<p>Maybe post-modern art is just destined to become ‘art by ambush.’ Start with a really shocking hoax and watch people squirm.</p>
<p>"Yale issued a statement saying it investigated and found it all to be a hoax that was Shvarts’ idea of elaborate “performance art.” (SFChron)</p>
<p>Well, it certainly was an elaborate performance… but art?</p>
<p>okay, so if it is blood, ew, that is a helath issue I would guess</p>
<p>if it is paint or whatever, no biggy</p>
<p>serious about that</p>
<p>how many blood and guts movies, crime dramas, etc have we all seen</p>
<p>now no one would want to see a “snuff” film, to be sure, but many do want to see shoot em up, CSI, Halloween features all the time</p>
<p>what is the real difference here besides her marketing it in such a manner?</p>
<p>kind of clever actually- not sure her “side” of the issue, but it did ruffle some feathers</p>
<p>for those grossed out by the idea of it, look at what tv shows, etc you watch</p>
<p>bet at least one- dare devils, pro wrestling, murder mysteries, etc., is just as stupid</p>
<p>Look at my post on the tissues with “blood” on them…powerful stuff</p>
<p>Yale now says it is a hoax.</p>
<p>Still GROSS!!</p>
<p>Very disturbing. Does she have parents? Who is prescribing the abortifacient drugs for her and what are they? And the side effects of use/and repeated use?</p>
<p>Yale should suspend her for a year.</p>
<p>[Yale</a> Daily News - Shvarts, Yale clash over project](<a href=“http://yaledailynews.com/articles/view/24530]Yale”>http://yaledailynews.com/articles/view/24530)
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<p>I’ve been holding off on this question because it is a bit off-topic, but here goes: is it normal for a student’s senior project to be under the direction of a “lecturer” instead of a regular faculty member? It strikes me as strange that a 50K/yr education does not guarantee oversight by a tenured, full time, faculty member who would be exercising judgment consistent with that of someone with a stake in the institution’s reputation.</p>
<p>Maybe the art field is very different from any field with which I have experience, but generally the senior thesis/project adviser is someone who can serve as a valuable reference upon graduation.</p>
<p>I’m thinking Yale deserves any negative repercussions it gets if it can’t be bothered to provide regular faculty to oversee senior theses/projects.</p>
<p>Do we call this new art form post-partum art or pre-partum art?</p>
<p>Re #57 At the colleges I’m most familiar with, students ask profs to be their advisers and students are free to ask lecturers if they prefer to do so. It isn’t that Yale or any other of these colleges “can’t be bothered to provide regular faculty to oversee a senior” project; it’s that the student chose to ASK someone else. Given the nature of this project, I suspect that the young woman did not ask a regular faculty member. She probably thought she wouldn’t get it approved. So, she may have sought out someone who was more likely to go along–and didn’t have to fear being fired for it. This is speculation on my part, I admit.</p>
<p>There are many valid reasons to allow students to choose non-faculty as advisers. Many science majors at schools with affiliated med schools do work at the med school labs and write their theses based on it. Sometimes the adviser will be a practicing physician who is an adjunct at the med school.</p>
<p>“At the colleges I’m most familiar with, students ask profs to be their advisers and students are free to ask lecturers if they prefer to do so.”</p>
<p>That’s my experience too. Sometimes a lecturer, post-doc, or grad student instructor is actually the greatest expert in the field on a particular issue. If their work is the closest to your intended project (or you just really like them) you can ask them to supervise you.</p>