Yale Student Abortion Art?

<p>jonri and Hanna, thanks for the responses. I can see why a student would feel closer to a non-regular faculty member (younger, more accessible, etc.) but if I were Queen of the Universe and taking into consideration what was best for the student in terms of getting references and making connections, and what was best for the university in terms of maintaining some semblance of quality control, I would require at least a shadow adviser who held a regular faculty position, and who would sign off on the overall project proposal and whatever interim reporting requirements are standard for the project.</p>

<p>I used to work as a non-regular faculty member (instructor, research professor) so I am suspicious that giving students the “right” to choose their adviser is actually a way for senior faculty to be relieved of the work.</p>

<p>should they suspend students who make horror films? </p>

<p>what about stephen king? </p>

<p>loo at movies, tv, books, video games,what did she do that was worse than any of those</p>

<p>she didn’t do anything illegal, medically unsound, etc…she did “art” and marketed as such</p>

<p>eh…</p>

<p>No, because horror films are truth in their way we know they are not real. She lied about what she did as some sort of sick publicity stunt much to the chagrin of the school.</p>

<p>that is the distinction then, she lied about gross art</p>

<p>what if she said, it was meant to be satire or irony, or a test to see how people would react and that was part of the art…</p>

<p>that is all she has to do, is that the “press release” was all part of the whole “art piece” to provoke a reaction</p>

<p>if that was the case, which she could easily claim, would that be worthy of suspention?</p>

<p>Yes. It was not well thought and had a bad result. Just like any other stupid stunt. Calling it art does not give you carte blanche to do dumb things. As a private school Yale can do much more to control students.</p>

<p>Yale can smack down on her regardless of whether it’s art or not. Yale has a reputation to keep.</p>

<p>The Mona Lisa had just had an abortion. That’s why the inscrutable smile. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>[Yale</a> Daily News - Yale threatens to ban Shvarts? art project from show](<a href=“http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/24579]Yale”>http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/24579)</p>

<p>[Statement</a> of Peter Salovey, Dean of Yale College](<a href=“http://www.yale.edu/opa/newsr/08-04-21-00.all.html]Statement”>http://www.yale.edu/opa/newsr/08-04-21-00.all.html)</p>

<p>Yale says if her project is to be exhibited, Shvarts must say her work is fiction and contains no human blood; and Yale has disciplined two faculty members.</p>

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<p>I am glad that the instructor and advisor are the ones being disciplined rather than the student. She’ll need to modify the project, and if she doesn’t, it won’t be displayed. I think Yale made the right call.</p>

<p>The girl still needs help.</p>

<p>Just saw this thread. Wow. “Controversial art” used to be something like a urinal glued to the hood of a junk car. Gosh, I miss those good old days. Agree with ASAP - the girl is in serious need of help.</p>

<p>A student telling public lies about her school work with the (apparent) support of at least one faculty member. That’s what academic integrity is all about.</p>

<p>And a one year suspension will give her time to think about acting stupid.</p>

<p>Although I agree that the girl must have some major issues, I don’t see how it would possibly be fair to suspend her - she had her “project” approved by the faculty, so, at least technically, she did absolutely nothing wrong.</p>

<p>Trivialization of miscarriage and abortion --real or pretend-- is just plain sick and offensive to all women. What exactly is the message here–besides a cry for help?</p>

<p>What are the bets that if she goes through with it, she’ll never be able to have kids when she wants them?</p>

<p>This made me sick to my stomach. I can’t imagine any female willingly putting herself through miscarriages month after month…she definitely needs some psychiatric help.</p>

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<p>I’m sorry, but other than making people squirm (which was obviously the entire point) what did she do wrong?</p>

<p>The amusement of this kind of statement juxtaposed with all the right-wing hullabaloo over the discussion about dismissing John Yoo from Berkeley is… interesting.</p>

<p>She lied on at least several points. Under most Honor Codes, and I’m sure Yale must have one, lying about academic work is a felony.</p>

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If she presented her “project” as “performing art project”, with all her public statements being part of the “project”, and got it approved by the faculty adviser, then she did not lie at all - she was just doing the project that was supposedly supported by the school.</p>

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This should have been a clue right there that its fake…mixing blood and Vaseline to keep it fluid…hmmm…</p>

<p>^well not everyone is “ChemEGrad” ;)…</p>