Thank you!
Just my two cents, but I like to reserve the word âhookâ for things which are independently such a strong institutional priority that the college has a policy of identifying such applicants and giving them some form of more lenient evaluation on other factors. If it is just among the things that the readers and committees can consider, then I would not call that a âhookâ.
Given that definition, I think it is fair to say the Supreme Court has said race/ethnicity cannot be a âhookâ in the strict sense above anymore. But, to the extent it is part of an individual applicantâs personal story in a way connected to other institutional priorities, then it can be considered in that individualized contextâbut again that makes it not a âhookâ in the strict sense.
And I am pretty sure a lot of lawyers are going to be trying to police that distinction to avoid trouble, but it remains to be seen what this actually means in terms of outcomes.
For this reason, many colleges accept Questbridge students more than past years in ED round i think
I agree, I think that is one of several legal means schools will be using to maintain progress on increasing diversity.
Yale will require standardized test scores starting next yearâŠ.
Extra! Extra! Inside the Yale Admissions Office several episodes to address standardized tests policy change.
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Actually four new episodes! Three regular ones on the subject AND what they are calling a bonus episode (which is about half the length of a normal episode).
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That made sense and absolutely no sense at all 
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Updated! You are correct! Thank you!
Baseball analogy is totally lost on me, culturally!
Hannah did not seem overly impressed either!
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I listened to the podcast and youâre absolutely right, Yale is huge on the test. They believe the test is a better predictor than GPA. Never imagined they wouldâve blatantly say they believe your test score is low instead of assuming nothing from TO. My daughter was deferred TO but Iâm pretty sure sheâs cooked. Her score is 500 points higher than her schools avg but since itâs still lower than the 25th percentile we were advised to go TO.
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Would you consider updating with her test scores? Seems to me like a reasonable response to all this.
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Iâve honestly been considering this but I donât want my suggestion to be the reason why they ultimately donât accept her. To be transparent her school average is 822 and only 12/180 seniors got over 1200 on the SAT. Ny daughter took it once and got 1310 which is probably one of the highest in her school. I read Dartmouth puts the TO kids SAT assumptive score at 1400 so not sure if Yale is assuming 1400 or 822 range.
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Itâs not too late to submit her scores. Your daughter sounds like the exact reason they will now require some scores. The third podcast in this series explains that your daughterâs situation is exactly why TO is problematic. They were very blatant that for students who worry their scores are too low, within the context of their school and background, a lower than Yale average test score that are still high for that high school, can absolutely be predictors of success at Yale!
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I agree with niceunparticularman and would encourage your D to ask her AO if they would consider her score (which she should divulge in the email). Just keep the email short and to the point, including something like âbased on Yaleâs updated testing policy and recent information shared in the podcast, I would like to submit my 1310 for consideration.â Good luck to her.
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How would she be able to ask her specific AO though? Only thing she has already done was to submit her LOCI via the portal but she doesnât know a name of her regional AO? Also doesnât the school submit the mid year grade report or is the applicant responsible for that? I keep seeing people say that âyouâ should submit but I donât remember my daughter saying she got an email from Yale requesting it. Some schools did specifically ask her to do it but I donât remember her mentioning that Yale requested it.
I understand the concern, but I really feel like they have now been very clear about this. I cannot promise it will actually help, but with the context you explained I personally believe her best possible application will include the scores for their consideration. And if I were her, I would want to feel like I submitted my best possible application.
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I kinda assumed if they were deferred they already passed the hurdle of being academically fit at Yale. I donât know the exact process but I imagined deferred applicants being submitted to the full admission committee and them being on the fence so they opt to defer.
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If the AOâs name isnât in the portal (or in Naviance/Scoir/Maia Learning if your HS uses one of those), send the update thru the portal where one can send an application update.