Yellow flags about roommate are turning into red!!

<p>jym, my point is that people have different ways of doing things. You have your way, I have mine. I don’t usually call people outside my immediate family at 10 pm at night, but I don’t freak out when people call me at that hour. I understand that not everyone operates under the same set of assumptions. If my daughter’s roommate’s mother had called me at any hour of the day or night last year, I would have been absolutely delighted to meet her – and if she was worried because she couldn’t reach her daughter, I certainly would want to offer whatever help I could.</p>

<p>Chedva, the posts were clear that when the mom called the OP, she mistakenly believed she was calling the daughter’s cell phone – not the home phone. So however the phone number was given, the intent was to reach the room at the end of the day when the parent had apparently been trying the room phone all day long. It is likely that the mom made the call because she didn’t want to wait any later than 10pm and it was the only way she could think of to reach her daughter.</p>

<p>The mom may have thought that the phone number on the college contact sheet was the D’s cell phone. All I meant was that D obviously didn’t give roommmate’s mom her cell phone number, and the way that mom got to OP was probably from the college phone - not that the OP had given out the phone number.</p>

<p>Interesting thread. Makes me wish I were a novelist as I could surely do something with it.</p>

<p>My sympathies to the OP. For all of us parents, the transition of having our children go off to college is a challenge. OP, you have so much on your plate right now that your life was already enormously challenging. You’ve had a lot to worry about lately. Once I have my worry switch on, I find it very difficult to control the flow or shut it off and I seem to be worrying about everything. From what you’ve written about your daughter, I am very confident that she will be fine and can take care of herself. I hope that the other challenges in your life resolve themselves in a positive way, too, and that you can break out of the worrying mode – it is so crippling to the spirit to be worrying much of the time and yet it is understandable in your case.</p>

<p>I don’t see what difference where she got the number makes. She called one time to try to get her daughter off the phone. I really don’t see the big deal, but I guess one can see a thunderstorm in a dark cloud.</p>

<p>I’m guilty as charged…I called my son’s friend once last year when I couldn’t get in touch with him. I knew a kid from our hometown who was going to UF, I knew he saw my son on a regular basis, so I called his mom/dad and asked if I (or they) could call their son and have him tell my son to pick up his cell phone (the knucklehead!). I never gave it a second thought (until now). Actually, I have two cell phone numbers of my son’s close friends. It makes me feel a LOT better to know that I can get in touch with son if I have to, without calling the university authorities (which would embarrass S to no end if they had to track him down).</p>

<p>Likewise, I’ve been called before by neighbor’s daughter (neighbor was an elderly woman) who I didn’t know from Adam’s housecat…she was worried about her mom because she hadn’t heard from her that day. I’ve also been called by my own parents’ friends, who haven’t been able to get in touch with them for some reason (I guess at their age, they always worry something bad has happened). I think it is a very good idea for parents to have contacts for their college kids other than the school authorities- sometimes it just isn’t such an emergency that you want to call the authorities, but you really want to talk to your kid about something.</p>

<p>If she starts calling frequently, that’s a different story.</p>

<p>Jeepers! I have lots of my kids’ friends’ numbers saved. It’s not like I call them all the time, or even as often as once or twice a year, but I don’t wait for the apocalypse if calling seems useful. The last time was a few weeks ago: My son was incommunicado for a week, I needed to decide whether to buy a ticket for him to a show, and I knew he had been talking with some of his friends about a farewell get-together. So I called one of them, explained the situation, and asked, “Are you guys planning something for that Sunday?”, and the answer was, “No, we’ve been talking about Wednesday.” I thanked him, and that was that.</p>

<p>It didn’t occur to me that might be inappropriate.</p>

<p>there is a difference, and I see it</p>

<p>as well the RM was on the phone all day, and her mommy had to call her to tell her to hang up</p>

<p>and then the OPs D said, hey you know I missed some important calls while you were on the phone, and all she gets is an OH</p>

<p>wow, guess the bully hogging the phone doesn’t need to show any manners while the OPs mother can’t even comment on it</p>

<p>got it, you can behave rudely, and cause another person to miss out on important communications, and then it takes your MOM to get you off the phone, because heaven forbid you listen to your RRM</p>

<p>egad, what, this girl is not a baby, she is 19 and she still needs her mom to tell her to get off thephone so SHE can call her, not even that perhaps the RM might need the phone</p>

<p>and I too have called my Ds friends, but it was important enough, not just to remind a 19 year old college student to get off the phone, though it seems the RM needed to be told how to act</p>

<p>and as for the missing apology, how a person reacts to being called on rude behavior shows what that person’s character is- an oh, and not even gosh sorry, and meaning it, to me, shows a lack of maturity, manners and even a comprehension that the other people exist and are sharing the space</p>

<p>and no I am not reading too much into that simple exchange, people’s true colors and attitudes show up when they respond to concerns of others</p>

<p>how many here have waited in line, or for a parking spot, and someone cuts in front of you and looks right at you and there is no look of apology in their eyes, do you just go, ah well, sure they are just swell and the fact that they feel entitled is okay with me, it didn’t matter that I was waiting and it doesn’t matter anything about fairness</p>

<p>yep, bet some of you didn’t get irked and for a bit of time when that happens</p>

<p>having read the get it off your chest thread, I know of what I speak</p>

<p>Perhaps a good thing to do would be to just start all over- let bygones be bygones- after all, no one hurt, no blood, no fatalities. People do makes mistakes, people are quirky, people don’t always communicate as well as they should, people don’t always apologize (but as long as they change, which it seems like she did, that’s OK)…sometimes it just isn’t healthy to keep going over and over and over and over the same thing again and again and again and again. It doesn’t get anywhere. Why not forgive and forget, let it go?</p>

<p>you darn well should at least acknowledge your mistake to your roommate</p>

<p>you can only forgive and forget IF the other person acknowledges what they did, otherwise, it will happen again and again</p>

<p>"how many here have waited in line, or for a parking spot, and someone cuts in front of you and looks right at you and there is no look of apology in their eyes, do you just go, ah well, sure they are just swell and the fact that they feel entitled is okay with me, it didn’t matter that I was waiting and it doesn’t matter anything about fairness</p>

<p>yep, bet some of you didn’t get irked and for a bit of time when that happens"</p>

<p>Of course people get irked, but it doesn’t go on and on for days. I’d hate to live my life that way. It must be a miserable existence to not be able to shake it off. </p>

<p>Of course I get angry, but I at least try to let it go- stomp my foot, hit a pillow, bellyache online- then forgetaboutit! This seems like everyone just wants to keep hitting on it over and over. No one is letting go of this- is this helpful to the OP, her daughter, or anyone else dealing with a roommate that’s annoying?</p>

<p>but if you are living with the person and they don’t say, at least a MeBad</p>

<p>what if your spouse doesn’t say, oppsy and mean it you are jsut, eh, well, </p>

<p>I seeeeeeee…</p>

<p>Quite frankly, there have been days when I’ve been on the phone for hours and hours. There were many days like that when I was a teen. I can’t even imagine someone getting this upset about it. Annoyed, yes. Being evil because I didn’t remember to apologize for being on the phone? Wow.</p>

<p>I am feeling sympathy for the two YOUNG women involved. I don’t know about you, but at that age I had enough on my plate without the internet community weighing in on my phone habits, lack of manners, and possible psychiatric disorders I might have. The RM has apparently gotten her own phone,is not in the room as much, will in all likelihood dump the 16 y/o ( or be dumped–remember the age–long distance romance is a bummer) and they will all muddle on through. The D and RM will have profound changes over this semester, some good, some bad. Thats what college is for, and our generation is getting a bad rap for not letting them make their own mistakes, and rectify them without parental interference. I am learning to sit on my hands with my own S and D’s and let them find out how to fix their messes. I love being a parent, but we have to let them flounder on their own sometimes, or they won’t be strong. It sounds like OP’s D has learned a lot in her life, taken from her M’s postings. She will learn how to deal with a crummy rm also, or who know, they might become the best of friends.</p>

<p>I couldn’t agree more with Grace. Best to you and your daughter. There will be no roommate dilemna that can’t be resolved either by the girls themselves or by the university.</p>

<p>My impression was that the two roommates had been in touch before school started. The roommates’s mother probably assumed that the number her D had been using was the OP’s D’s cellphone, not the house line. </p>

<p>Anyway, I agree with those that think there is a little too much that was made here of the mother’s phone call to the OP. Again, it’s the first week of school. Roommate is arranging to get her own cell phone but doesn’t have one yet. Roommates’ mother may have many things to discuss with her child - these may not be of an emergency nature, but there is a lot going on the first week that may have needed attention. Anyway, the mother has been trying to call the room for two days but the line is constantly busy. The mother decides to call her child’s roommate to ask her D to free up the line or call her back for a moment. The mother may have thought that both girls would be in the room and that the only quick favor she would be asking the OP’s D was a quick - can you ask my D who is sitting across the room from you to get off the line and call me?! </p>

<p>When she unexpectedly got the OP, the mother was friendly enough and it doesn’t sound as if she said anything so inappropriate. The fact that she asked for the D’s cell phone number didn’t bother me. As a practical matter, it’s a good idea for parents to have the roommate’s number in case of an emergency. I can’t imagine hesitating to give it to my child’s roommate’s parent under normal circumstances.</p>

<p>However, it does sound as if the OP was concerned about the cost of those incoming calls to the D (who may have a very basic plan). In that case, she could have just said, Do you mind if I give my D the message - D doesn’t have many out of network minutes and it costs her a lot when someone calls her cell phone out of network. But here is the number in case of an <em>emergency</em>. If the mother starts to call all the time, then I’d start to think about being annoyed, but the timing and circumstances of this phone call did not bother me in the least. </p>

<p>As far as the reaction of the roommate to being told that she was taking up too much phone time, we don’t really know anything about what was going on in the head of the roommate - it could have been an “ohhhh!” of understanding, of embarrassment …or of indifference. We also don’t know exactly how the OP’s D handled that first, for lack of a better word, confrontation with the roommate. Did she come across as obviously annoyed, upbeat and friendly, as if she was asking a favor? As someone pointed out earlier, it may not have occurred to the roommate that the OP’s D needed the phone herself, (many kids use their cell phones exclusively) and she may have been entirely unaware that this was an issue until the OP’s D said something. The “Oh” could have reflected that new understanding… or not, we don’t know. </p>

<p>I do agree that there may be more than a little bit of bias as a result of the rest of the situation that was going on at the time, and I’ve already been supportive of the OP and the fact that the rm sounded quite inconsiderate. But what tends to happen in a situation like this is that your whole perspective is colored by the judgments you have already made - if the rm had seemed just fine and wonderful, I think things like the phone call would have seemed like a nonissue.</p>

<p>does no one get that it isn’t JUST the phone call, or JUST 16yo BF, or JUST the not bringing what was promised, or JUST the hanging out watching cartoons and hardly leaving room</p>

<p>it is the COMBINATION of those events, totaled up that raises the flags</p>

<p>and what can also tend to happen is that people ignore what their gut is telling them, and not trusting their intuition and that they should ignore the warning signs</p>

<p>too often that has led to disaster</p>

<p>CGM,
What kind of disaster do you foresee and what should be done at the current time to avoid it?</p>

<p>She might steal a tuna sandwich from the fridge and borrow a shirt without asking. OMG.</p>

<p>I haven’t gotten past the “issues” of the cartoon quilt and stuffed animals, quite frankly (still don’t know why they’re germaine.) So I guess disaster might be a Mickey Mouse lamp?</p>

<p>I was going to buy a cartoon comforter myself. All the kiddie ones are made for twin beds, they’re cheap, and they’re funny/cute!</p>

<p>I agree though that a lot of times your gut feeling is right. I personally have a really keen sense about people. Maybe OP is similar. But unfortunately none of us can add up the “warning signs” into anything meaningful about this girl over the internet. The OP’s D will have to handle character judgement herself.</p>