'Yo, Blair!' Overheard at G8

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<p>marite, What is your criticism of the DNC? I believe that they are doing exactly the right thing, and I make an automatic monthly contribution. The DSCC and DCCC, on the other hand, don’t get a penny to me - I contribute only to candidates I choose myself.</p>

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<p>Hmmm… I should not have started discussing politics on CC. Too complicated. So, with apologies, I’ll pass up on this.</p>

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<p>Marite - re Giuliani’s personal issue vs. Clinton - with the latter, it was more the sleaziness of it, and what appeared to be taking advantage of a gullible young lady. Giuliani’s relationship on the other hand appeared mature, substantive. Neither is attractive of course but one was a “one night stand” variety with a partner not competent to be in the relationship - er - wait, I guess that really wasn’t a “relationship”, was it (???); the other, a more adult, “normal” relationship and therefore a bit more tolerable. </p>

<p>Not that it matters, but I don’t get Hillary at all. I cannot for the life of me wrap my mind around staying married to a man who did such a thing and it was so public. The most common explanation I’ve heard is that their marriage is too much of a successful business relationship and it would be a significant financial loss to both parties to break it up. But I still couldn’t stay with the man personally - the money, power & prestige traded for reputational and personal damage? Nope, it just doesn’t quite jump off the page for me. </p>

<p>Re Bush, this issue doesn’t bother me at all - I did wonder though if perhaps he knew - or perhaps he and Blair both knew - the microphone was on the entire time, and perhaps if it was his/their way of getting some message across that might have otherwise been impolitic to state in formal dialog.</p>

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<p>LTS:</p>

<p>I’m not a fan of Hillary, but it strikes me that in some ways, she is a throwback to previous political wives. Think about Nelson Rockefeller and how he died; FDR and Lucy Mercer, Jacke and Jack Kennedy. </p>

<p>As for Bush, the media focus on his cuss word is way overblown and totally besides the point.</p>

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<p>Sensitive New Age Guys</p>

<p>Who like to talk about their feelings?
(Sensitive new age guys.)
Who’s into crystals, into healing?
(Sensitive new age guys.)
Who like to dress like Richard Simmons?
(Sensitive new age guys.)
Who are hard to tell from women?
(Sensitive new age guys.)
Who like to cry at weddings?
Who think boxing is upsetting?
Who tapes “Thirty Something” on their VCR,
Who’s got “Baby on Board” stickers on their cars, oh,
(Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh)</p>

<p>Whose last names are hypenated?
(Sensitive new age guys.)
Who like “Three Men and a Baby” a movie I hated?
(Sensitive new age guys.)
Whose consciousness is constantly raising?
(Sensitive new age guys.)
Whose tax free income is amazing?
(Sensitive new age guys.)
Who thinks that red meat is disgusting?
Who’s into UFO’s channeling, and usting?
Who believes us when we say we’ve got premenstrual syndrome?
Who doesn’t know who plays in the Seattle Kingdome?</p>

<p>Who likes music that repetitious?
(Sensitive new age guys.)
Who likes music that’s repetitious?
(Sensitive new age guys.)
Who’s concerned about your orgasm? (silence)
Well, I guess it’s more important that they have 'em.
(Sensitive new age guys.)
Who carries the baby on his back?
Who thinks Shirley MacLaine is on the inside track?
Who always sings on sing-alongs,
Even when they can’t stand stupid sing-along songs?</p>

<p>Christine Lavin</p>

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<p>I believe that Hillary stayed in her marriage because she loves Bill. Does anyone remember the photo of them dancing on the beach, looking like honeymooners? I think that Bill exudes some sort of charm (that I’m immune to) and some women find him irresistable.</p>

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<p>“Not that it matters, but I don’t get Hillary at all. I cannot for the life of me wrap my mind around staying married to a man who did such a thing and it was so public.”</p>

<p>LTS, the lure of owning the White House again? While I do not think she could ever overcome her -deserved- negative public opinion, there might be enough nostalgia for people to consider voting for a First Gentleman they worship. Hillary is too cunning -and not dumb enough- not to realize what happened to the candidates who did not hang hands, teeth, and feets on the coattails of Bill. </p>

<p>Power at all cost is only what matters to the cynical Senator of NY. The question, of course, is about who would get the master bedroom.</p>

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<p>PS Fundingfather, they had a similar poll on AOL yesterday. Your results only include the partisan voters. When the voters were asked to identify the candidates they WOULD reject, Clinton did as poorly as all the others dems except Giulani and McCain. I think the best dem was “only” rejected by 65% of the voters. I think Kerry was at 80% rejection.</p>

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<p>I don’t put a lot of weight on on-line polls. I agree that the Gallup poll will change a lot once the candidates are better known, with the lesser-known candidates coming up in acceptance. However, the ones at the the top of the list are all very well known and Hillary is still “acceptable” to the vast majority of the Dems - yet I know many Dems who would never consider voting for her. Perhaps the poll was just plain BAD.</p>

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<p>The Christine Lavin song posted by FS is really a comic masterpiece, if you ever have the chance to hear her sing it. Um, Christine, that is.</p>

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<p>“I don’t put a lot of weight on on-line polls.”</p>

<p>Because the other polls are better? What was the margin of error of Zogby again … a few hours after the election had started. An Ouija board, coffee grinds, or tea leaves are as good as all those scientific polls that can’t get their story straight, even AFTER the election. Was it not Zogby people who tried to explain that their predictions were correct even if they picked the wrong winner?</p>

<p>They are part of the political carnival, but jesters nonetheless.</p>

<p>PS Unless I am mistaken the online poll on AOL was quite accurate for the last election.</p>

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<p>Marite, I really respect your ability to step away from the political threads.</p>

<p>I am drawn to them like a moth to flame…but perhaps I also get a kick out of sparrring with the likes of Driver and FS…</p>

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<p>Giuliani may or may not be the Republican nominee, although apart from the adultery there’s the pro-abortion and pro-gay rights issues that the south will have to come to grips with.</p>

<p>But back to the adultery: if I had a dollar for every time I heard “how can you trust a man when his own wife can’t trust him” I’d be a very wealthy person. But I guess it’s okay if the mistress is older. Or if you want her to move in the governor’s mansion and live with your wife and kids. Makes it more friendly-like, doesn’t it.</p>

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<p>Okay, Bush, what more can we say…Tony Snow, now that is a fun guy to watch…here’s something from today: ( a real class act)</p>

<p>QUESTION: If he is proud of the diversity in his Cabinet, wouldn’t you expect him to improve diversity amongst the White House staff?</p>

<p>SNOW: What the president does is he looks for the best available people.</p>

<p>QUESTION: And they’re all white?</p>

<p>SNOW: I don’t know. Why don’t you tell me?</p>

<p>You can come aboard and do personnel. You want it?</p>

<p>QUESTION: I’m asking a question.</p>

<p>SNOW: I know you are, but it’s an argumentative question that also applied to other previous administrations. Would we like more blacks and Hispanics on? Yes, sure.</p>

<p>QUESTION: And Asians?</p>

<p>SNOW: Asians, too, yes, thank you. Let me leave no one behind. Just, every group, raise your hand, we want you.</p>

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<p>Well, breaking my vow. I’m not a Bushie, but I have to give credit to Bush for having a more diverse cabinet than most (all?) previous presidents. Let’s see. Condi Rice, John Yoo, Alberto Gonzales, Colin Powell, Rod Paige, Norman Mineta. Whether or not one likes the policies they championed is neither nor there. The fact is that they were/are ethnically diverse.</p>

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<p>You don’t need a 9/11 hero to defeat Hillary. She’s going to do that all by herself–a fact as plain as day since 1992.</p>

<p>Speaking of silly generalizations…some of ‘Us’ not only know religious conservatives–we’re related to them and we love ‘Them’ to bits! :eek:</p>

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<p>Hayden, it’s not about Bill, it’s about Hillary. Her husband dishonored her in a very sleazy way, and for all the world to see. And she chose to stay married to him. That sort of makes it impossible to respect her, therefore it’s difficult to imagine considering electing her to any office.</p>

<p>I would have been able to grow some admiration for her if she had reacted by terminating her marriage - at least that would have demonstrated that she values herself, and respects herself.</p>

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<p>our government is soo sad man… the just can’t resist suckin up!:</p>

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<p>So, latetoschool, would you have preferred a divorce?</p>

<p>Oh, that is it, damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t</p>

<p>Guess should have been like them good ole republicans that divorce willynilly</p>

<p>So, are you saying, if a wife or husband gives up on a marriage of so many years for an affair, that they are superior to someone who sticks it out, forgives, and saves the marriage?</p>

<p>Wow…</p>

<p>If my H cheated, I would want to kill him, but if we could move on, i would do my best</p>

<p>Everybody messes up, and badly, if everytime someone did, we dumped them…</p>

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<p>My point is, everyone has their own relationship, and way of working things out…and not lose respect for someone who manages to do that…seems kind of sad</p>

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<p>Hezbollah will not be ‘destroyed’, driver, not in the near future anyway. More likely, Hezbollah, as an radical anti-semetic organization, will gather strength and funding in the aftermath of the attack. The attack will make them completely state-less as opposed to partially state-less, however. </p>

<p>A new DMZ will be created. In my estimation, the US is giving the Israelis, (the second largest military in the world ?), time to accomplish their goal, before the Israelis allow Condi to step in and appear as the cease fire savior–that’s what Bush was on about when he stalled Blair.</p>

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