<p>Not clear? Flowery? Ok I give up,…</p>
<p>rorosen:</p>
<p>Reading matter for you: Baudelaire, Les Fleurs du mal.</p>
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Pffft! Hezbollah is the party facing a crisis. That’s what most of you don’t yet get. I think Bush is plenty interested in their crisis.</p>
<p>Hillary is the GOP wet dream nominee, but NYMom is right. There isn’t a chance she will get it, which is good for us Dems, since I couldn’t even hold my nose to vote for her.</p>
<p>On your other point, Bush’s complacency at this moment is nearly pathological, and I am on the Israeli side of the fence. But the administration’s lack of attention to the crisis in the ME is bordering on insane.</p>
<p>And will the social consrvatives go for Giuliani (hint: Judith Nathan)?</p>
<p>The point is, it isn’t a crisis! It’s a crisis for Hezbollah, which is being exterminated. It’s a good thing for everyone else.</p>
<p>Marite: I’ve said before, I don’t think social conservatives are going to tut-tut about Giuliani’s personal life. Particularly if he’s running against Hillary, who is going to win the Democratic nomination.</p>
<p>Driver, even the Israeli newspaper Haaretz doesn’t agree with your POV, and is significantly more cautious, guarded and concerned about Hezbollah’s power.</p>
<p>I just have a little advice for you citygirlsmom: get off the kool aid. <em>insert dancing koolaid dude</em> Oh yeah!</p>
<p>Lol but seriously: "sharper tongue that colter!!!</p>
<p>now that is a standard I wouldn’t want to be associated with, a lying, plagerizing, mean spirited, ambulance chasing, public figure."</p>
<p>Cmon now, at least be responsible and give coulter the benefit of the doubt about whether she plagIArized (no e) her book, especially since the evidence to suggest she did is very infinitesimal. Also I dont see where you get lying from; i dont recall her ever lying about anything. I dont get it though; how can you not like ann coulter :).</p>
<p>And about Bush, WHO FREAKIN CARES. I swear its almost like flaming liberals like you sit around and just wait for something to happen so you can chastise him. Look, it was off record so the cursing means zero. And even if it was on the record at least he was still thinking about the issues of the day. And maybe he wouldnt feel that way about Kofi if Kofi would just grow a freaking brain and burn the olive branches he is waving around at everyone. As far as Merkel goes, it was an awkward moment yes, but you dont know the whole story behind it; all you see is just a slapshot. I dont think he “intended” to be uncouth about it. There is no reason to be so prissy; we all make mistakes. </p>
<p>Now I dont agree with Bush on everything he does, but I am still very proud to say he is my president, no matter what all those far out left winged blogs have to say.</p>
<p>I’m sure the NYT disagrees as with me as well. If Israel seizes the moment, and destroys Hezbollah as it should, this will be a historic moment. I think that is what is happening, as we post.</p>
<p>Point is, facts on the ground, in the actual environs, point to a different picture. I have been reading all day, and I think you are still fantasizing, which is OK to do in some situations, but rather fruitless in political crises.</p>
<p>Driver:</p>
<p>I’m skeptical about Hillary’s chances of winning the nomination. But why should social conservatives forgive Giuliani when Clinton is still being pilloried for philandering? Because it happened in Gracie Mansion instead of the White House? Not that I cared about the personal lives of either man, but I though that with social conservatives, the personal was the political.</p>
<p>AM:–[Laughing as I type] It’s not a political crisis! That’s what it was before Hezbollah made the big mistake that will lead to its destruction. It is over. This is a military operation now, being conducted by one of the most powerful and effective military machines on Earth. The politics are done. Death now awaits the terrorists.</p>
<p>gosh sorry guess the publishers of colters books disagree…</p>
<p>nice name calling by the way…that shows more your level of intellect than mine</p>
<p>i have learned when a person resorts to name calling, they have lost…</p>
<p>I find the animosity toward Hillary among the Democrats here to be quite interesting. I’m sure that you’ve seen the latest Gallup poll showing that she is second only to John Edwards amongst Dems as far as “being an acceptable candidate” with 69% saying she was acceptable (versus 71% for Edwards and 68% for Gore) and that only 29% of the Democrats find her “unacceptable.” </p>
<p>On the Republican side Giuliani is the “most acceptable” with 73% and McCain is a distant second with only 55% finding him acceptable.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7004269311[/url]”>http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7004269311</a>
<a href=“http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/07/19/poll_suggests_trouble_for_mccain_in_2008.html[/url]”>http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/07/19/poll_suggests_trouble_for_mccain_in_2008.html</a></p>
<p>Driver, are you still one of those people who claims that the Iraq war is a smashing success, and that the Iraqi are so grateful to their “liberators”? Because if so, you may just think that this opertion will result in the end of Hezbollah. </p>
<p>I will beg to differ with you, because you can’t squash terrorists that way. No matter how many are killed, there are at least as many, or double, or triple as many, waiting in the wings for their turn to meet the virgins.</p>
<p>Marite,
IMO, Clinton’s problems were never about philandering. The fact that Giuliani had an unhappy marriage and moved on doesn’t seem to me to be similar. I think that too much attention is paid to “social conservatives” by people who don’t really know any of them–and I say that with all due respect to you and others. The religious conservative bogey-man is just that. As I see the politics and the money playing out right now, I see Hillary/Giuliani shaping up for 2008. And I don’t think that the most sanctimonious Right-wing Christian is going to let Hillary become president over the hero of 9-11. That’s what my crystal ball is showing now, anyway. ;)</p>
<p>[It’s</a> not a crisis!](<a href=“http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=20604]It’s”>http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=20604)</p>
<p>[Declared</a> a good thing!](<a href=“Vatican deplores Israel's Bombing of Lebanon - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization”>Vatican deplores Israel's Bombing of Lebanon - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization)</p>
<p>[Everyone</a> Agrees!](<a href=“http://www.zaman.com/?bl=international&trh=20060721&alt=&syf=butun]Everyone”>http://www.zaman.com/?bl=international&trh=20060721&alt=&syf=butun)</p>
<p>Sorry, I don’t follow your logic, driver. Do you mean that Right-wing Christians are powerful enough to stop Hillary or that their importance is overblown? Not sure of your line of argument.
As to Bill Clinton, what were the impeachment proceedings about?
My own crystal ball is opaque. I’ve just told Dem recrutiers the DNC needs to get its act together.</p>
<p>No animosity here, ff. I only stated my belief that Hillary would not be the nominee. I don’t support her, but you couldn’t tell that from my post. She is my senator, and I consider her mediocre, but I have nothing against her. I think that she is a bright and hard-working woman who lacks both vision and leadership qualities. </p>
<p>The polls you cite are probably measuring name recognition. It’s a long way to the presidential primary season. I know who I think will be the Democratic nominee (and it’s not my choice), but I could very well be wrong about that. I’m sure I’m not wrong about Hillary’s chances. </p>
<p>Driver, I agree with Allmusic that your conviction that Hezbellah is destroyable is naive. </p>
<p>cgm, I am no fan of Ann Coulter, to say the least, but I’ve read the “evidence” of her plagiarism and it is thin.</p>
<p>Marite,
Clinton’s impeachment proceedings were about lying under oath. Perjury. There is no law that applies to presidential fornication, despite what the the spin machines would have us believe.</p>
<p>I meant that the “Right-wing Christians” are overblown–bogeymen. They are a fantasy of the Left, at this point in our political history. Giuliani will have no trouble gaining the Republican nomination.</p>
<p>NYMo2–I think there is a difference between Hezbollah–a true military organization in every sense–and Hamas–a more loosely-based terrorist gang–that is often overlooked by those not well-versed in the region. Hezbollah is a locatable entity, with a known infrastructure, and it is being destroyed at this moment. I hope the IDF will be allowed to finish the job. If Bush weren’t president, that would not be an option.</p>