you too can be a spy....

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<p>Network with other companies that help maintain our national infrastructure. Quick Fact: 350 of our nation’s Fortune 500 have a representative in InfraGard.
Gain access to an FBI secure communication network complete with VPN encrypted website, webmail, listservs, message boards and much more.
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<p>(and they can shoot to kill, report on anyone they want to get an investigation going0 ie like business competiters) </p>

<p>ah, why even pretend its a republic when it is a corpritacraty- with companies spying and reporting in anyone they want with no repurcusions- all in the name of “security”</p>

<p>in case you doubt :</p>

<p>FBI Director Robert Mueller addressed an InfraGard convention on August 9, 2005. At that time, the group had less than half as many members as it does today. “To date, there are more than 11,000 members of InfraGard,” he said. “From our perspective that amounts to 11,000 contacts . . . and 11,000 partners in our mission to protect America.” He added a little later, “Those of you in the private sector are the first line of defense.”</p>

<p>He urged InfraGard members to contact the FBI if they “note suspicious activity or an unusual event.” And he said they could sic the FBI on “disgruntled employees who will use knowledge gained on the job against their employers.”</p>

<p>And he said they could sic the FBI on “disgruntled employees who will use knowledge gained on the job against their employers.”</p>

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<p>:rolleyes:
I hope you meant this figuratively…</p>

<p>I have been a member of this for a while, as well as a few other similar groups. There is tremendous need for the public sector to interact with the private sector on matters pertinent to national security. It’s an excellent strategy because it allows the executive branch and independent agencies to access the cummulative brain trust of very experienced business executives, leaders in academia, etc.</p>

<p>nope…not figuratively, in special circumstance they can shoot to killl…period</p>

<p>and its a stragety to spy on business competition, get secret information before anyone else, and to report on your neighbors</p>

<p>sure, its all proper and above board- when even the head of the FBI can go after one of your disgruntled ex employees</p>

<p>this is pretty scary stuff no matter how you label or explain it</p>

<p>government who is supposed to monitor business transactions, industrial spying, etc is in bed with the very corporations they monitor…yep, that’s a deal for the rest of us</p>

<p>You know, cgm, we could take your word for it, based on your obviously intimate understanding of the organization - which springs from your extensive experience… reading the website?</p>

<p>Hmm, maybe I’ll take lts’s word for it, since she’s actually a part of it and has an understanding not derived from the public front page.</p>

<p>CGM, industrial espionage is illegal. Legal acquisition of competitive intelligence is ethical, a sound business practice, and the winner is the client. You might want to read the ethics and the FAQ section of the scip.org website (I’ve been a member of that organization for years too) - you will then begin to see the difference between illegal spying on businesses, and the legitimate collection and interpretation of open source information that allows a profit enterprise to protect its competitive edge.</p>

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<p>Um, just from looking around their website, none of their “members” are actually LEOs (on any level: local, state or federal). And if they were LEO’s, they wouldn’t be legally allowed to “shoot to kill”, so that seems highly unlikely. What do you base that claim on?</p>