Young Voters prefer fake Republican to real Republicans

<p>From Rassmussen Reports:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/2008_presidential_election/comedian_colbert_reaches_double_digits_as_third_party_candidate[/url]”>http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/2008_presidential_election/comedian_colbert_reaches_double_digits_as_third_party_candidate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Keep whistlin’ past the graveyard, Republicans. Meanwhile practice saying "Pres-i-dent Hill-a-ry.</p>

<p>What does that say about the quality of candidates we have?</p>

<p>They’re clearly overlooking a genius in Fred Thompson. </p>

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<p>Ahhh, get back in your recliner Fred.</p>

<p>BG, you need to address that to the Republicans. Democrats and the younger voters both seem to be pretty satisfied with the Democratic choices.</p>

<p>Well, this seems to be assuming that the younger voters will actually get out and vote. They don’t have a great history of that.</p>

<p>I give extra credit to any student of mine who votes (yeah, they can vote for opposing candidates and often do). I only require the signiture of the poll-watcher.</p>

<p>Very few of them take me up on this.</p>

<p>mythmom, that’s what I was about to say. Colbert fans are probably more likely to vote than other young people, but their involvement across the board is pretty pitiful.</p>

<p>Well, if you’d bet against every campaign since 1972 that depended on the youth vote you’d do very well. Fwiw, I think Obama is going to meet the same end as Howard Dean on exactly that basis. The Duke of Wellington at Waterloo: they kept on coming in the same old way and we kept on stopping them in the same old way.</p>

<p>However, notwithstanding the smaller share of the youth vote, that’s a huge tilt against the Republican party. I think the “brand” is permanently damaged and these folks will be voting more as they age.</p>

<p>As I sift the below the line numbers in poll after poll, things look pretty good for Hillary, regardless of age group. The GOP is in grave danger of becoming the Angry Southern White Men’s party. 12 months, 10 days to go.</p>

<p>Ron Paul is getting a lot of support from young people and from Democrates. Interesting. He claims to be the most conservative and most ‘genuine Repblican’ (if you look at what the Republican platform stood for, historically: smaller govt., non-interventionist foreign policy, adherence to the Constitution) Republican of all.</p>

<p>Guffaw. Ron Paul is polling within the margin of error nationally and to the extent that he’s getting support from Democrats it’s because he has the most emphatic stance on immediate withdrawal from Iraq and because most Democrats…hell, most voters…aren’t familiar with his Right-wing Libertarian Looney-Tunes social and economic views. </p>

<p>Personally, I’m cheering Paul on. I hope he runs as a third-party candidate on the Libertarian ticket.</p>

<p>And now: More people believe in ghosts and UFO’s than in Bush.</p>

<p><a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071025/ap_on_re_us/ghosts_ap_poll;_ylt=AtXlFwX0in3qsoqo0j0aaMWs0NUE[/url]”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071025/ap_on_re_us/ghosts_ap_poll;_ylt=AtXlFwX0in3qsoqo0j0aaMWs0NUE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Then how do you explain this?</p>

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<p>and this:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=128737[/url]”>http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=128737&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>and are you calling our Constitution Loony-Tunes?</p>

<p>LD, the results of one poll of one TV debate mean nothing. In the national picture, Paul’s numbers are lower than the margin of error in the poll. In New Hampshire, where things have been intense, Paul is pulling 7 percent among Republican voters, testimony to the weak Republican field.</p>

<p>No, the Constitution is not Looney Tunes. I have the greatest respect for it as the framework of an enduring, living, breathing, evolving political system. However, Paul’s <em>interpretation</em> of the Constitutions is Looney Tunes. He’s isolationist, wants a return to the gold standard, is anti-abortion, against government regulation of virtually every kind, is racist…the list goes on.
He’s against “socialized” everything: by his definitions, we have socialized warfare, public safety, transportation, communication, education…much of which has worked out pretty well for the development of this country. He’s really a Libertarian extremist with an “R” by his name. Shrug.</p>

<p>I believe in personal freedom and responsibility. I also believe in the power of collective action and the promise of promoting the general welfare along with providing for the common defense while pursuing happiness.</p>

<p>It was not a single poll, but many.</p>

<p>What do you mean rascist!!! Ron Paul is not rascist! Where do you get that from???</p>

<p>Oh TheDad, if only you are right about the permanent damage to the brand.</p>

<p>I said similar things on the Ron Paul thread. The genuflecting at a document that includes the 3/5ths compromise is unfathomable to me.</p>

<p>I am not sure if Ron Paul is racist, but he attracts a lot of racists. Check out this web site. <a href=“http://www.Stormfront.org/forum[/url]”>www.Stormfront.org/forum</a> . Look at the campaign Ad on the bottom.</p>

<p>If you were too lazy too look its a Neo Nazi KKK Site dedicated to White Surpremacy. There’s a booming Ron Paul for President Ad up there. A lot of popular support for him on the site too.</p>

<p>I don’t want to get too involved in the debate, but Stormfront is hilarious. In a totally depressing, scary way, but nonetheless hilarious. I always find it hard to believe that people like that actually exist, sometimes.</p>

<p>That’s BS. Just because some people who have chosen to support him are racist, does not mean he’s racist.</p>

<p>Show me a quote BY HIM that is racist.</p>

<p>For all those getting really excited about anti-war, libertarian Republican Ron Paul, it’s worth noting that he’s pretty racist and also an anti-Semite.</p>

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<p>The Houston Chronicle story linked above contains quotes from a newsletter Mr. Paul put out in the 1980s and 1990s. It includes quotes referring to blacks as crime-prone and “fleet-footed.” </p>

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<p>Paul, a former congressman and one-time Libertarian presidential nominee, said allegations about his writings amounted to name-calling by the Democrats.</p>

<p>He said he’d produced the newsletter since 1985 and distributes it to an estimated 7,000 to 8,000 subscribers.</p>

<p>Writing in his independent political newsletter in 1992, Paul commented about black men in the nation’s capital.</p>

<p>Citing statistics from a 1992 study produced by the National Center on Incarceration and Alternatives, a criminal justice think tank based in Virginia, Paul concluded in his column:</p>

<p>“Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”</p>

<p>“These aren’t my figures,” Paul said this week. “That is the assumption you can gather from” the report.</p>

<p>He also wrote: “Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.”</p>

<p>Paul continued that politically sensible blacks are outnumbered “as decent people.”</p>

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<p>The only complete article from the Ron Paul Political Report on the Internet that I am aware of is a 1992 piece titled “LOS ANGELES RACIAL TERRORISM,” on the subject of the so-called Rodney King riots in South Central Los Angeles in 1991. It is available to us today because it was posted to the talk.politics.misc newsgroup on July 30, 1993 by Dan Gannon, a notorious white supremacist and Holocaust denier, and archived by the Nizkor Project, an anti-revisionism organization that was active in cataloging hate speech on the early public Internet. You can read Nizkor’s copy of the article here, and see a reposted version on Google Groups here. Some relevant passages from the article (emphasis mine [phenry]):</p>

<pre><code>Regardless of what the media tell us, most white Americans are not going to believe that they are at fault for what blacks have done to cities across America. The professional blacks may have cowed the elites, but good sense survives at the grass roots. Many more are going to have difficultly avoiding the belief that our country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists – and they can be identified by the color of their skin. This conclusion may not be entirely fair, but it is, for many, entirely unavoidable.

Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country. Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty, and the end of welfare and affirmative action… Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the “criminal justice system,” I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.

If similar in-depth studies were conducted in other major cities, who doubts that similar results would be produced? We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.

Perhaps the L.A. experience should not be surprising. The riots, burning, looting, and murders are only a continuation of 30 years of racial politics.The looting in L.A. was the welfare state without the voting booth. The elite have sent one message to black America for 30 years: you are entitled to something for nothing. That’s what blacks got on the streets of L.A. for three days in April. Only they didn’t ask their Congressmen to arrange the transfer.
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<p>Writing in the same 1992 edition, Paul expressed the popular idea that government should lower the age at which accused juvenile criminals can be prosecuted as adults.</p>

<p>He added, “We don’t think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That’s true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such.”</p>

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<p>collated from various sites, ranging from DailyKos to FreeRepublic, LOL.</p>

<p>I’ve researched your quotes and found several sites that said those were not the words of Ron Paul. Your quotes are rather disjointed and without the sources it’s hard to tell who said what. Without direct references I find this suspect.</p>

<p>I did find something directly attributable to Ron Paul:</p>

<p>from <a href=“http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul68.html[/url]”>http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul68.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>leal, your Ron Paul broken record sounds really old… Yawn, time to go to bed.</p>