Rockaway Beach. Ocean, beach, surfing. Seeing more young people being drawn to it.
Williamsburg has been too pricey for most of the genuine artsy crowd for at least the past decade. Rental/buying prices there can really give many parts of Manhattan a good run for its money in the high priced real estate rental/buying market.
They ended up in Bushwick and parts of Ridgewood Queens which borders on Bushwick. Now…some of them are getting priced out of Bushwick along with many lower-income long-time residents.
I remember when Bushwick was among the worst of the slums. Boggles the mind that it’s now Yuppie paradise. But what happened to all the former residents? There isn’t anywhere else they can go.
A few of the priced out artsy folks have started moving eastward into areas like East New York though it is still considered too far and too dangerous for many others to follow suit atm.
There are areas of SF where there was no there there that have become hot. The area around the ballpark, Hayes Valley, parts of the Mission district, I can’t believe what has happened.
Berkeley is super hot now. There used to be prostitutes standing on corners of University Avenue…and they weren’t even attractive. 
I think a lot of people moved to Antioch, Pittsburg and I have no idea.
@alh, are you looking in SF or in surrounding areas of San Francisco?
I started another thread in the cafe.
Just in case people really want to talk about shoes…or elite colleges, I thought we could clear some space.
@cobrat, I wasn’t talking about the first wave of the gentrifiers, but the people who lived there when it was a ghetto.
@novadad99:
Wow, you went to poly, and you lived in the same section of the Bronx I once lived in, the house I was talking about was 1 block north of Allerton, about midway between where allerton hit white plains road and where it hit gun hill (I used to commute on the #5 train from Pelham parkway or the #2 from white plains and Allerton). If the house had been further south, close to Pelham Parkway it is still a decent area, might have stayed.
The Bronx is starting to gentrify a bit down in the south bronx, talking to people I know who know such things, a lot of the buildings in the deep south Bronx (port morris) and along the concourse are being bought up, and the renovation is going on that ends up forcing people out. I never thought I would see Harlem gentrify, but it did, and now the south Bronx seems to be heading that way. There are already some art galleries there, some cafes and such, I suspect in another 10 years if this keeps up it will become la la land as well.
I agree with you about Poly, I got my master’s there in the mid 90’s, they had just gotten a big gift then to start renovating and such, when the Metrotech complex was built. I liked the fact that it was a local school serving a local population, and you are right, basically City College is the only engineering school like that in NYC, I also knew a lot of people I worked with who had gone there.
When my daughter was teaching high school in the Bronx, she was near Fordham and the Arthur Avenue market. I thought that was a really interesting neighborhood and pretty ripe for some gentrification.
She lives in Greenpoint, which was the hippest place where she could afford the rent seven years ago. Williamsburg was already way out of range. But she doubts she could afford to move to Greenpoint now. She’s thought about buying one of the thousands of units being constructed all around her, and even the studios are unaffordable . . . and she has a good job! The more recent grads we know in NYC are in Bushwick or in microclimates of Queens near subway stops. Or they are being subsidized by their parents. Or they have sold their souls to the Man.
The characters of those gentrified neighborhoods are no longer recognizable. I remember when Greenpoint was the Polish neighborhood. Now the Greeks are being pushed out of Astoria. Who knows how long the Hasidic Jews can stay in Crown Heights.
“l am taken a back by the wealth of the students’ parents that filters to the kids. (I am talking about Columbia and NYU). A couple of my friends’ kids have roomed or stayed at places owned by other students. The places would cost over $1.5 million. One kid was the daughter of a billionaire.”
My son’s gf parents bought her and her sister their own apt. In NY when they were in high school! The parents lived in NJ but the D’s went to school in Manhattan. They sold it last year for $2.1 but after they had purchased two apartments in a brand new building going up across the street from the Flat Iron building. Apartments are still not finished so the rented an apartment for the D’s - even though one lives in NJ with her boyfriend and the S’s girlfriend is still in college out of state. His gf will be moving in once she graduates ( it’s almost ready I think) and will be doing a reverse commute to White Plains. The parents are going to use the second apartment as their pied a terre.
The GF is a very down to earth and very sweet but has definitely lived a life way different then most of us.
When the parents flew my son and gf down to Florida for a week in February (they have a house there too) at first my S said he wasn’t sure if they were going to fly commercial or by private jet! They did end up flying commercial which made me very happy because after the Payne Stewart incident private jets worry me.
Have you met the gf’s parents yet?
No, but they offered to pick me up from the airport in Ft. Lauderdale when I had to rush down when my mom fell. Then my son told her I play mah jongg and she said to tell me shed love to play next time I’m down. I’m sure they are lovely but my S told me I am not allowed to talk politics!
I’ll pm you a link to the building. You’ll get a kick out of it.
I notice that this discussion is almost 100% about East Coast colleges. Makes me thankful to be in CA. There are so many things about my State that make me crazy but the rather relaxed approach to status clothing is not one of them.
As for equestrian boots…I actually own several pair…no not the 1K version…but the over the counter version…at just several hundred $$$. Know what…they are the MOST comfortable shoes I own. I can walk for hours and hours over cobble stones, thru puddles, Pompeii and Ephesus are not a problem… they are comfortable working shoes. Just happen to not look like the should accompany a pair of Ben Davis pants.
A lot of the young college women wearing leggings and boots are wearing things like Frye, which from my perspective are still pricey at several hundred dollars but not $1,000.
I’m sure there are many parts of CA that are very label conscious. It’s not just an East Coast thing nor is it all of the East Coast.
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I also own several pair of Frye boots. Again, they can be extremely comfy. I gave D a pair as a gift as a '‘going to college’ gift. She went to a rural type campus…much walking. She has worn them for 6 years, they are on the 3 pair of soles…and still going strong.
You are probably right about certain areas of CA. But Silicon Valley is the antithesis of status clothing. Hey…10 grey T-shirts and a few pairs of Levi’s …and your set with your work wardrobe. Add a sweater and your good for an evening out.
Don’t forget your Reef flip flops.
No Reefs. Only Rainbows.
This thread made me look at the high school kids streaming out of school today. Girls were wearing low boots or Keds, the one guy in the crowd was wearing dessert boots. All were Hispanic or black. I’ve never seen anyone wear boatshoes at our high school.
As for my feeling about “supposedly” elite colleges, I’m very happy with the two my kids attended. (Carnegie Mellon and Tufts.)
This. I fly in every few weeks and it’s particularly noticeable to me at the airport. I’m pretty sure I could guess fairly accurately who is flying in to visit vs. who is flying home by how big of a mess they are. I’m not really talking about status clothes, but it’s almost like some of them tried to find clothes that had been wadded up on the floor for a week.
If you fly Alaska, there isn’t a single dude in first class who actually paid for his first class ticket. They all got upgraded because they have status - because they fly the damn route all the time! 
@dstark I suggest we discuss which colleges have the best Climbing Walls. I’ve seen a few colleges that really resemble country clubs.
Incidentally, has this threat be renamed the Real Estate Forum? Any suggestions on property in Vancouver? There’s a city I’d love to live in…