<p>raj115, that’s a very interesting major. I hope it goes well.</p>
<p>I don’t get why we’re fighting…? Because muert doesn’t like Cornell?</p>
<p>Big freakin deal. His opinion doesn’t matter. Is he even going to the school?</p>
<p>Whats up with all the hate for Cornell? I don’t get it, even with people who know absolutely nothing about Cornell, there seems to be a pre-conceived notion that Cornell is the worst of the Ivies and that its beyond overrated. Why is that?</p>
<p>I’ve posted before in this type of discussion (somewhat agreeing with meurto, sorry!) and I’ll post again. As far as academic quality and educational opportunities, Cornell can not be beat by any college in the country including HYPM. However, in regards to the vague criteria of PRESTIGE, Cornell ranks second to last, ahead of Brown, amongst the Ivies. The Ivies have a distinct tier system in regards to prestige. It goes the Big Three, then everyone else with Cornell and Brown typically being considered last. </p>
<p>Believe me, almost the entire student body of Penn gets absolutely livid because so many people confuse it with Penn State. It not solely a Cornell phenomenon.</p>
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<p>muerteapablo, the concept of inferiority or superiority is a relative term. Yes, I am aware, as any other person in the world, that HYPSM are more prestigious than Cornell. But, so what? Honestly, Cornell is still a top ranked college and what are you going to say about those masses of students who attend truly inferior colleges, I mean second-tier universities? I honestly am not really interested in changing a bit of your opinion about Cornell, but I am afraid you might be spreading a negative influence and thoughts to others who are about to attend or attending Cornell with a positive outlook. </p>
<p>Besides, your previous posts indicate that you clearly have a subjective bias that Cornell is an inferior school and it has inferior student body.</p>
<p>Again, I agree. I had no intention of steering this thread in that direction.</p>
<p>Go here because YOU want to come here, because YOU think that Cornell will be the place where you will live, learn, and grow better than at other institutions. Do not come here because it will make your parents happy, impress your friends, etc…</p>
<p>Do you know how superficial prestige is? How little most other people actually care? If you strive to live through that morsel of recognition that your school’s name will fetch you from people you hardly know, then please, reconsider your life; it will be very unhappy.</p>
<p>I think muerteapablo is doing the right thing, given what he’s written on this board. If he wants to go somewhere else because he feels another student body/program/institution will better help him achieve his ends, then there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. </p>
<p>On a very related note: Are there a lot of Cornellians that come here for those wrong reasons? I’ve heard various and contradictory accounts.</p>
<p>cornell > all others. period. as soon as all cornellians start saying this to themselves and people back home, prestige will go up. that’s all that prestige is. it also helps that harvard is the oldest college, which means they have the most famous alumni (simply based on statistics and the number of alumni over time), which means they have money, which leads to prestige… money, prestige, money, prestige, etc. that’s all prestige is at the undergraduate level, seriously. you won’t feel any different at a #1 ranked college than at a #12 college based on some arbitrary ranking system.</p>
<p>anyway, good luck in your transfer, but don’t say things like cornell’s academics and student body are far inferior to those of other colleges.</p>
<p>Yeah…it kinda makes no sense.</p>
<p>People will be happy for someone that goes to state school…they think that’s fine, ect…but Cornell is just SO inferior?</p>
<p>I happen to love Cornell. I would choose it over any other Ivy, and it has always been my favorite school in America. I know a lot of people that feel the same way I do - it’s not all about prestige…and Cornell simply has a charm that no other Ivy League school has.</p>
<p>I say all this without ever having BEEN to Cornell…I start this fall. :)</p>
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That’s how I was. I never even considered the other peer schools because I knew Cornell (its unique program offerings, campus, location, culture) was perfectly suited to me. It’s frustrating when I talk to people and they try to denigrate it because it’s not something it never tried to be. What an incredible model of providing superior education to everyone from farmers to physicists. As I’ve said before on here, Cornell should be applauded for such an accomplishment, not slandered for not being selective enough or being too applied in its focus.</p>
<p>Yeah, no kidding. And besides, 90% of this country probably couldn’t get into Cornell if they tried. I mean, at least they don’t give out grades like some of the other Ivies…</p>
<p>hah im studying for finals right now and i wouldnt mind it if cornell gave out grades like the vard. i imagine you’ll feel the same way when youre here lol. just kiddingggg (sort of)</p>
<p>lol soccer_guy…did I read somewhere that you are pre-med?</p>
<p>If you are…wait until you get here and have to work to beat the orgo or biochem means :-P</p>
<p>Although…my DSOC and Comm classes were very liberal in grading…and I can’t complain…lol</p>
<p>i hate the subjective grading that comes with architecture. BLAHHH</p>
<p>Ack…</p>
<p>Dewdrop…thanks for the pep-talk…(not…) lol.</p>
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applejack, as a Cornell alum who graduated years ago, I applaud you. I scan the Cornell forum from time to time, and often see this issue bandied-about amongst the students. You have very succinctly described the essence of Cornell in a very down-to-earth way.</p>
<p>I turned down</p>
<p>MIT Waitlist, Columbia SEAS, JHU BME Program, CMU, Tufts, University of Florida</p>
<p>It ****es me off when my teachers are saying to visitors:
“In this class we have a Princeton, three Columbias, a Dartmouth, oh and a Cornell”</p>
<p>As was so succinctly put somewhere before
“Being called the worst Ivy is a compliment. It’s un-snobbish braggery.”</p>
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<p>I still don’t get why it’s the worst Ivy…no matter WHAT ranking you use, it’s not the worst.</p>
<p>If it’s based on ACTUAL rankings…Brown ranks lower.</p>
<p>If it’s certain majors - a lot of Cornell’s majors are ranked higher than a lot of Ivy league programs - and we (yes…I say “we” now even though I was accepted 2 weeks ago and have never been to campus…lol) are the only Ivy League Vet Program - and happen to be the best Vet Program in the US.</p>
<p>If it’s…snobbishness…then…yeah I guess we rank last cause Cornellians don’t have a freakin corn cob up their anus…</p>
<p>i think people generalize to “worst” just because it’s easier to get into because it has a larger student population than the other ivies and all the kids who are afraid of not being in a city elect to go to other schools so they have to admit more students</p>
<p>True…but…still…</p>
<p>I mean look at this ranking from 2008 in Washington Monthly - using a different method.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2007/0709.natlrankings.pdf[/url]”>http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2007/0709.natlrankings.pdf</a></p>