<p>Gee, I thought you meant another poster “expert.”
I’m not usually a fan of any study that seeks to provide a softer touch about real problems. Too much drinking is too much, whether occasional or habitual. The risks can remain the same.</p>
<p>My sister, a therapist, has often commented that most college-party-kids do not become alcoholics. There are a large number of young people that can over-indulge here and there during that period of time and then grow up and live normal non-alcoholic lives. </p>
<p>But…this is also true:</p>
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<p>Genetics and predisposition are also a factor. </p>
<p>And he addressed it in his response just after, which in fact seems to corroborate the article you posted. Binge drinking by itself might not correlate with future alcoholism, but binge drinking frequently (what he refers to as “heavy drinking”) seems to show a correlation. </p>
<p>I can’t take the discussion further than that - I don’t remember what else you argued about, though I remember following the discussion avidly - but at first glance I don’t see a contradiction. </p>
<p>Maybe. I was interpreting it as “youthful binge drinking does not lead to becoming an alcoholic” (the title) and the first post saying " We debated this at length with a former active poster who claimed otherwise." as saying that the ‘former active poster’ had claimed something in contradiction to the study. I could be wrong though, I wasn’t around for the original debate.</p>
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<p>Agreed. You don’t have to be an alcoholic to suffer from binge drinking.</p>
<p>Did something happen to Mini? I have missed him. Please PM me if you have info. Though I disagreed with him at times, I got to really enjoy his posts, as I do a number of folks’ here, whether we agree or not.</p>
<p>The problem with all of this is that the data is still sparse. It takes a while to “catch” the significant mass of those who qualify as alcoholics. Also, one has to define the parameters of binge drinking. Binge drinking, yes, has been defined, by if one binge drinks once a year, is that going to contribute to one probability of becoming an alcoholic? How much binge drinking can start increasing the odds, if that? </p>
<p>IMO, alcoholics often are binge drinkers in that there are those who will drink up as much as they can in a short period of time. It often becomes a dance of semantics.</p>
<p>Whether it contributes to becoming an alcoholic or not, the dangers of binge drinking are acute enough that in itself is something of concern. Alcohol is drug and when you take a lot in a short period of time, you are asking from trouble. Anytime you compress the time on something that can be dangerous, things can happen fast and get out of control before one can even act. </p>
<p>Binge drinking is the cause of all alcohol related deaths in young people. As an addictions counselor I don’t believe binge drinking causes alcoholism, but the already binge drinking may already be alcoholic. Still many kids die from drinking related accidents and overdoses, and all of them were either binge drinking or driving with someone who was. It’s not like alcoholism is the only possible bad outcome of binge drinking. I mean kind of so what ?</p>