2015 Brown U Chance?

<p>Male
Would apply for class of 2015
State:PA</p>

<p>SATs: 2150 combined
SAT I: Reading: 730; Math: 700; Writing: 720
SAT II: US History: 760; Chemistry: 730</p>

<p>GPA: 3.8 W
PERFECT ATTENDANCE for Grades 1-12</p>

<p>ECs:
4 APs, APUSH: 4; Music, Stats, Psychology: TBD
Principal Double Bass in school chamber orchestra & symphony orchestra
Founding member of our school’s symphonic orchestra
Member of the Three Rivers Young People’s Orchestra
Key Club member
Class Council Rep
FBLA Member & Treasurer
Junior Statesman of America member
Attended University of San Francisco’s “Green Energy” Week Seminar
Attended Carnegie Mellon’s Chamber Music Week Seminar
Club Soccer Player
Worked for local State House of Representatives member
Article published in TeenInk Magazine, Nationally Syndicated Magazine
President’s Academic Achievement Award</p>

<p>I know my GPA is kind of low but it is just because of freshman year, so my transcript reflects improvement. I have a huge passion for music and would definitely participate in Brown’s orchestra and music dept. I was wondering if I apply should I ED or just regular? Also, will prefect attendance help my chances? Any other ECs I could do to boost my resume? I have been to Brown many times before and would love to attend college there.</p>

<p>Thanks for the help!!</p>

<p>Your SAT score, while not bad, is certainly subpar for unhooked applicants. What is your unweighted GPA for each year of high school? What is your rank?</p>

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<p>No, it is completely irrelevant and should not be mentioned.</p>

<p>Not reporting rank, my high school graduating class is around 650.
U GPA - 3.74</p>

<p>You said that you had an upward trend. Can you break that down?</p>

<p>Sure,</p>

<p>Freshman Year - GPA 3.3 U
Soph Year - GPA 3.6 U
Junior Year - GPA 3.74 U</p>

<p>^ Are those cumulative? Can you show each year individually?</p>

<p>Yes, those are cumulative.</p>

<p>Each year:</p>

<p>Freshman: GPA 3.3 U (3.4 W)
Soph: GPA 3.9 U (4.0 W)
Junior: GPA 4.0 U (4.2 W)</p>

<p>Thanks for the help silverturtle! Im new to this whole process.</p>

<p>The significant upward trend should help save your otherwise poor GPA. Do you have any plans to retake the SAT? The 2150 is lower than an unhooked applicant (on that topic, what’s your race?) would want, though the fact that it is a well-rounded 2150 will help.</p>

<p>Your SAT score is fine.</p>

<p>Here’s the thing about early decision – most accepted students have very strong records or are athletic recruits. If your GPA and transcript will improve based on your senior year grades, then you should seriously consider waiting until RD.</p>

<p>And I agree that perfect attendance is irrelevant, although I suppose you could turn it into an interesting essay.</p>

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<p>What you mean by “fine” is unclear, as that is not ordinarily an applicable concept in college admissions.</p>

<p>Fine as in, that score is in the mid-50 range, demonstrates to admissions that she can handle the workload at Brown, and would not be the reason for denial. It is not “sub par,” by any stretch of the imagination.</p>

<p>People think a 2200 is sub-par. It’s ridiculous. When you say sub-par, you must mean sub-top tier.</p>

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<p>Higher scores yield higher chances; so, while it is unlikely, the score certainly could be the reason for denial.</p>

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<p>Actually, it is. This is a fact.</p>

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<p>When I say “subpar” in a chancing for Brown, I am saying that the score is subpar for Brown. And when I say “subpar,” I mean below average (this might have been unclear, as “par” has multiple meanings).</p>

<p>Silverturtle, I have a question: would a 2250 be considered good for Brown (as opposed to subpar)?</p>

<p>2250 is roughly average for unhooked acceptees.</p>

<p>Silverturtle, please give your sources for this information. I have never, in 25+ years of interaction with Brown admissions, heard that 2250 is “average for unhooked acceptees.” Unless you work for admissions, I have to question your information.</p>

<p>After a little digging – silverturtle does not work for admissions. Silverturtle is, according to his own words on CC, a rising high school senior. So tell us, what makes you an expert in Brown admissions? </p>

<p>Any Brown applicant who receives above 700 on all three sections of the SAT is a viable candidate and NOT sub-par.</p>

<p>^ it’s just another example of silverturtle thinking he knows best :wink:
ok I’ll stop now</p>

<p>omg srsly. He’s like idolized too. I don’t get it</p>

<p>Data from 2007 (source: The Best 368 Colleges, 2009 Edition, published by The Princeton Review):</p>

<p>(25th-75th percentile ranges)</p>

<p>Critical Reading: 660-760
Math: 670-770
Writing: 660-760</p>

<p>Data from 2008 (source: [College</a> Search - Brown University - At a Glance](<a href=“College Search - BigFuture | College Board):%5DCollege”>College Search - BigFuture | College Board):))</p>

<p>Critical Reading: 650-760
Math: 670-780
Writing: 660-770</p>

<p>Conservative 2010 projection based on those historical data:</p>

<p>Critical Reading: 660-770
Math: 680-790
Writing: 670-780</p>

<p>Approximation of total composite range based on those data (10 points added at the low end and 10 points deducted at the high end to account for single-section-to-composite-score-depression): 2020-2330. </p>

<p>Approximation of 50th percentile composite based on that datum: 2180. </p>

<p>It is reasonable to expect that, given Affirmative Action and other practices that benefit hooked applicants, the average SAT score of unhooked applicants is at least 100-150 points higher. I will, in the interest of being conservative, add 100 points, yielding 2280 as the average SAT score for unhooked acceptees at Brown. </p>

<p>Clearly, 2150 is subpar. Very likely, 2250 is subpar. Fireandrain’s number of 2130 is obviously incorrect.</p>

<p>Don’t argue with Silverturtle. He/she (I really don’t know) will always win.</p>

<p>I’m not idolizing him, but he is almost never wrong about these things.</p>