<p>sub-par needs to be defined. I consider anything within the IQR to not be subpar</p>
<p>^ I already defined it in post #13.</p>
<p>As usual, silverturtle’s response is data-driven.</p>
<p>And in case anyone would like to counter by opining that scores are irrelevant as long as an applicant demonstrates that he or she is academically qualified, I extend my point by offering this excerpt from my guide:</p>
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<li><p>I couldn’t care less about a guide written by a high school junior.</p></li>
<li><p>I have the data for the most recently admitted class for Brown. Your estimates are incorrect.</p></li>
<li><p>You are making approximations and estimates and guesses. You don’t sit in on admissions decisions. You haven’t a clue what goes on behind the closed doors.</p></li>
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<p>Please share.</p>
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<p>Your close-mindedness is unfortunate and unfounded, given that everything that I wrote is statistically driven. </p>
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<p>What goes on behind closed doors manifests in the data that Brown releases.</p>
<p>oh my god… I can’t believe this kid… Huge fight on the AP board, and you’re starting up with fireandrain? damn, dude. You just like to bring drama. You should be banned.</p>
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<p>Actually, fireandrain initiated the discussion.</p>
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<p>I have broken no rule and should, therefore, not be banned.</p>
<p>By the way, swim2daend, please see my request on the other thread.</p>
<p>No. this is ridiculous. You’re a high school junior. It’s clear you feel like you’re the greatest person since sliced bread. I researched your posts and there was one that you posted when you were a freshman in your first quarter complaining about how easy your classes were. I literally just can’t stand with such arrogance. I’m sorry, but you are not as smart as you think you are. You are not perfect.</p>
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<li>No. When the data is released publicly you will get it. Admissions decides when to release its data, I don’t work for admissions so I don’t get to release the information. </li>
<li>I’m not close minded. I respect experience. You can number crunch – congratulations. When it comes to holistic college admissions, a lot more comes into play than number crunching. </li>
<li>I disagree. Why? Because Brown does not release data for hooked vs. unhooked students. For example – legacies are hooked applicants. What if every single legacy accepted had scored over 750 on all sections of the SAT? What would that do to your statistical model?<br></li>
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<p>It is true that the higher your SAT, the greater your chance of being accepted. However, I can assure Kevan and other applicants that Brown admissions does NOT look at a student and say, “this kid is not an athlete or a legacy or first generation, he scored less than 2250: reject.” It simply does not happen.</p>
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<p>Please quote one instance in which I demonstrated this.</p>
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<p>The thread that you are referring to is from nearly three years ago and has little relevance now. Nonetheless, I don’t think anyone could consider what I wrote to be arrogant at all, considering that my description of my classes as too easy was merely a foundation for a request for advice. </p>
<p>Moreover, personal insults are unwarranted and are in fact a violation of the Terms of Service.</p>
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<p>I hope the contradiction between these two statements is apparent to the other readers of this thread.</p>
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<p>Certainly. But the fact that factors other than numbers affect admissions does not render my statistical analysis invalid. The only way to discount such an objective assessment is to dismiss it as “mere” numbers-crunching, which you have done. No objective facts allowed here.</p>
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<p>I have not written anything that is in contradiction to that statement.</p>
<p>Thank you, swim2daend. I haven’t a clue who this silverturtle is, or what he or she is doing on the AP board. My time on CC is spent on the Brown and parent boards.</p>
<p>My main concern, as a parent and someone with many years of experience in college admissions, is that students like Kevan should understand who is giving them advice on this anonymous site. I would hate for Kevan to think that he is a subpar applicant because of a comment from someone his own age who has yet to be accepted to college, from someone who is not an admissions officer or a guidance counselor with years of hands-on experience.</p>
<p>his posts are obnoxious and hurtful to these people saying they have no chance. When I was in this position, it was not fun to see comments and being called subpar</p>
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<p>Please do not misrepresent what I have said. I did not tell the OP that he was a subpar applicant; I simply conveyed the objective reality that his SAT score is subpar. It takes no unverifiable claims of “experience in college admissions” (a rather vague phrase) to affirm the accuracy of that statement.</p>
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<p>Please cease leveling these thus-far-unfounded personal insults.</p>
<p>lol you’ve spent 2 pages arguing with fireandrain. I don’t think he really cares if you believe what he’s saying. He’s just making sure the OP is informed, since this thread is about HIM</p>
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<p>Then we have a common goal.</p>
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<p>I make my third request to you (though you have not responded to the first two): please quote an instance in which I have said this. You are fabricating information, just as lapras completely made up a quote from me in the AP thread.</p>
<p>you’re calling them subpar!!</p>
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<p>Thank you for the update. I ask again, however, for you to support your claim that I am telling people that they have no chance.</p>