<p>Can’t we all just get along? Everyone is correct in their own opinion. No one is wrong. People need to stop being so formal and lighten up. Including people with high SAT scores…</p>
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<p>I have tried to remain somewhat cordial despite swim2daend’s personal insults and fireandrain’s condescension. </p>
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<p>Well, I don’t know about that… :)</p>
<p>Definition of sub par: “Not measuring up to traditional standards of performance, value, or production.”</p>
<p>Telling someone that their performance is sub par, which you did in post 2, is tantamount to saying “you haven’t a chance.” I’ll spell it out for you: You told Kevan that his SATs were not measuring up to traditional standards of performance for a Brown applicant who does not have a hook. If one doesn’t measure up, then certainly one does not have a chance of success. That’s how most people (especially a concerned high school student) would interpret that statement. (i.e. if your golf swing is sub par, you will not win the Masters. If your acting is sub par, you will not win the Oscar.) </p>
<p>Poor Kevan. He had no idea what he was starting with this simple chances thread. As for me, I’m better off ignoring them like I usually do. </p>
<p>Off to bed for me.</p>
<p>From the Random House Dictionary on the definition of “par”:</p>
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<p>“sub” means below; thus, “subpar” can mean “below average.” I have two thesaurses that confirm this.</p>
<p>But none of this matters because I already explicated my intention in using “subpar” on the first page of this thread.</p>
<p>To me, everyone is correct in their opinion. Sub-par does have a true definition. I think the “traditional standard” is not exactly a concrete number, though. : D</p>
<p>bedtime! :D</p>
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<p>And the winner of the Nerd of the Week award is…</p>
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<p>lol @ ksarmand</p>
<p>Silverturtle tries a tad too hard?</p>
<p>Just because you’re a parent doesn’t mean you know what you’re talking about. A lot of the posts in chance threads I see from parents are like “Ah, don’t worry about it. Just live life. When I applied back in 75’…” Yeah, no one cares. You don’t know anything about admissions. Silverturtle spends hours on this forum compiling information about things that you have never even thought about, so don’t say that he’s not an expert. Because, in all reality, he is as close to an expert as this forum is possible of producing.</p>
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<p>This forum has actual, certified admissions officers who are experts.</p>
<p>seriously, the guys on this forum who are complaining about silverturtle because he is “too harsh in chance forums” and “thinks he knows everything” are completely misguided.
Sorry he likes to tell you the truth? If you cant handle the truth and expect to get answers like “omg, you are so in”, then you are in the wrong place. More importantly, silverturtle spent much time on writing a useful guide that benefits all cc users. Trust me, its great and he clearly put in a lot of effort. He doesnt pretend like he knows everything-he simply backs up his claims with empirical and statistical proof. In fact, he is quite the opposite of arrogant-he always answers people’s PMs and is very willing to help anyone. </p>
<p>As for people who are saying that he has no personal experience and is estimating stats-are you kidding me? the stats he uses are released from the college! Even if he did utilize information from other people who know aboutadmissions-he is still extremely well-versed in admissions and is just plain honest</p>
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<p>It should be known that Hannibalxx and I have a bad history together, as I confronted him to get him to stop disseminating blatant misinformation. I don’t think a single person on this board would agree with what Hannibalxx has been saying: telling people with amazing stats (nearly perfect grades, nearly perfect test scores) that they have no chance and that Asians without 800 on the Math section might as well not bother applying to top schools.</p>
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<p>Eh, perhaps. It is just frustrating that despite my genuine and extremely time-consuming efforts to help people, posters (e.g., swim2daend) display profound immaturity by repeatedly slinging personal insults and then failing to support them at all (e.g., I don’t believe that I have ever done anything that could be reasonably characterized as arrogant). It is likewise frustrating when adults (e.g., fireandrain) patronizingly dismiss my statistically supported assessments simply because of my age or dishonestly skew my carefully worded advice in order to make an easier case against me. </p>
<p>However, if anyone does think that I am wrong, I fully welcome verifiable corrections; heck, I’ll even take personal insults of a constructive nature if you can support them. Ultimately, my goal is the proliferation of truth.</p>
<p>I just want to know if any of you speak this formally in real life.</p>
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<p>I possess no mental concept of to what you allude; I have, in stark contrast, conveyed a rather colloquial tone.</p>
<p>Nah, I talk pretty normally. :)</p>
<p>I would like to point out though that his scores are strong enough, but they are not strong enough to make him stand out in that respect. If the OP manages to reiterate his musical abilities and drive, and consequently what he can bring to Brown, the score will be strong enough to get him considered. It is subpar but that does not mean he will be instantly rejected. (Saying this myself as someone who did not have a strong GPA, albeit having incredible IB predicted grades, but managed to reiterate his passion for climate activism and activism on other fronts).</p>
<p>Source: Accepted and enrolled Brown student.</p>
<p>Oh, and Brown does not care “that” much about standardized test scores (e.g. you’re fine). Just make sure you stand out in terms of character and ECs.</p>
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<p>Certainly. I don’t think anyone (except, of course, Hannibalxx) would argue against that.</p>
<p>Of course, but your posts seem to imply that the applicant is not competitive (objectively speaking). Just emphasizing to the OP that he does stand a chance. :)</p>
<p>Oh, by the way OP, I would try to stand out more in terms of your musical interests: it’s perhaps a bit generic. (Maybe I’m off on that one?)</p>
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<p>Not sure what gave you that impression. </p>
<p>Anyhow, I agree that emphasizing the OP’s musical passion seems appropriate. However, the EC’s already seem to cohesively convey this interest.</p>