Simple clarification for @potatoz
Alumni of the original Launch program in 2013 are considered to alumni of both Endevvr and Launch. Neither Anymeal nor Essace attended Endevvr nor Launch this past summer. Some companies continue through Catapult after Launch or Endevvr, as mentioned by @Woandering. And as clarification for the roles/goals of both programs, Launch and Endevvr are almost identical in that regard.
@potatoz
@hellagucci pretty much mentioned everything. Regarding my latest post, I felt no need to actually link because I was merely questioning what you said from a POV I was hoping most could understand. After all, if you had actually researched both programs before applying, you would know that groups are random, so it would be extremely unlikely for the same people to grow a business at either Launch or Endevvr.
I will get back to you on my earlier post, but I am rather busy right now, so I don’t have much opportunity to look for articles I merely stumbled upon before. If you search Samuel Lurye, there are at least two major ones.
I’d like to say again that speculations many have made here have angered Endevvr alum and frustrated me. Some are really obvious like the one I mentioned in this post. Most have been blown up to be absurd to anyone who has done research before applying.
I’ll admit I have no proof for the academic vs incubator one, but neither can anyone else for either side of the debate. No one has technically attended both programs on different years. Therefore, unless there is specific info regarding the curriculum, and not the general steps both Endevvr and Launch publish, we cannot make any inferences. I am frustrated by the speculations that are based on the few differences in wording of either program’s advertisement.
@potatoz have you been accepted to either launch or endevvr?
Hi guys! There are info sessions about the Endevvr program this weekend! Here’s the detail: http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/summer-programs/1704238-2015-launch-and-endevvr-summer-programs.html
The program directors and alums will be there to answer questions!
@Woandering
Where in my previous post have I insinuated that I am trying to anger you or Endevvr alumni with “speculations”? Even if it is true that Endevvr is more of a real incubator than academic program (as it says on the site as well), that does not detract from either of the two programs. For the record I am applying to both Endevvr and Launch and love both programs so you are completely wrong that I am trying to offend you or Endevvr.
I wasn’t talking about your latest post. I was pointing out that you never provided sources for your own claims/speculations about how Endevvr had better companies and more press coverage, since you tried to accuse me of making speculations that offended you.
My last comment was not meant to put down endevvr, only to ask about the two programs so that I can make an informed choice (so thank you @hellagucci for clearing things up for me).
On the other hand, Woandering, you need to be aware of what you are saying. You claim to be frustrated by speculations and you say that speculations are offending Endevvr alumni, but I want to point out that you very likely offended Launch alumni as well with this statement:
So don’t try to call me out on “offending Endevvr alumni”. I am providing sources and just offering two sides of the story without trying to be biased, while you have provided no sources and repeatedly accuse me of things I did not do. Don’t call me out on not doing my research either, since you obviously didn’t do yours when you made the claim about Endevvr’s companies or about news articles.
Again I want to say that I am applying to endevvr and launch and both programs sound equally good and valuable. You need to stop turning everything I say into a Launch vs Endevvr war.
@potatoz
I apologize if I offended any Launch alum. Whether you intended to offend or not, you did. I have received messages from one of the alum on here who wanted to make sure I wasn’t persuaded by you or one of the other posters who have also offended the alum.
Regarding the sources, I already said due to lack of time, I haven’t been able to get back to searching for it; it’s not exactly high on my to-do list. However, one alum already posted an article about himself, and there is one other major article about the same alum. I read both articles before he posted and was surprised to see the same person on here. If you need more articles to read, I’ll post as soon as I can get around to looking for it. I don’t keep a list of articles I read, but the Endevvr name caught my eye.
Your most recent post that I had responded to included two speculations that have been constant throughout this thread, and I apologize if you feel targeted because I responded to your comment. However, I simply wanted to clear up that Endevvr and Launch are very similar, but just quickly again about the speculations: 1) Endevvr is less academic, not necessarily true since that is based on one sentence on the website, which was something about being more of an incubator program; 2) students went to Launch to found a company then went to Endevvr to continue it, not possible because Endevvr chooses the groups, so you might not be with the same people, although Catapult does do this.
I know that you did not come up with these ideas, but I do not want anyone who glances at this thread to get the wrong idea.
As a matter of background and bias, I am most likely not going to Endevvr, nor am I in any way connected to Endevvr except for applying to and researching the program.
Can any Launch and Endevvr alumni please tell us about how the groups are formed? Do they choose the groups for you based on interests and abilities before you come up with an idea, or do you come up with an idea and choose your own team that you think would best allow you to succeed? I know it can’t be completely random because every team needs to have people w/ varying skills like business, design, programming etc. for the company to work out.
Also, what is the daily schedule like (how much time is put into classes, and how much into actually working on the company)? Do most people have a releasable product by the end of the program or only a beta version? Is it an issue if teammates live far apart, in case they need to collaborate after the program ends to continue working on the company?
Potatoz^^ I am an Endevvr Alum and I can answer your questions. Endevvr takes a very unique approach in making teams. The first week you participate in many smaller projects as you look for a problem in the market and they closely observe your interactions as you work with pretty much everyone in the program (the beauty of a small, focused class size). After tinkering with the combinations after they find the perfect personality and skill mix, they obviously take your opinion into account but you will find that the group you are with at the end of the week is the group you want to be with- that is how great their process is! In fact, Catapult has adopted this process because it has so many benefits.
Regarding the other questions: The schedule is also very unique. You are in a new entrepreneurial hub every week (great change of scenery) and usually have no more than 2-3 hours of interactive lecture per day. Imagine it as a funnel: At the beginning when you are getting your feet wet their is more structure surrounding teaching you the concepts around entrepreneurship. As you get further into your entrepreneurial journeys, there is less and less programming and rather they provide a supportive community and plenty of time for you to take initiative and grow your company,
You will find that creating a beta is a major success. Everyone at Endevvr, given the extra week, had a fully functional product (even an app on the app store). The distance can be challenging, but I worked with someone from India and we are still working together almost a year after
Do most/all of the participants in these programs have previous coding experience? If someone is interested in being an entrepreneur, but not interested in computer programming, would they have a place at either Endevr or Launch?
nah anyone can and should apply. being a coder is helpful (or so I’ve heard) but genuine interest in entrepreneurship is all you need. They’ll set up groups so that if you don’t know how to code, your group members will be able to back you up.
btw did anyone get rejected from endevvr or launch
Hey everyone,
I am a teen entrepreneur, and for the past several years I’ve run successful e-commerce businesses (my current company, Poppy and Elle, distributes accessories to boutiques and companies nationwide). However, I’m in the process of starting a new venture, Teen Treps, a website focused on encouraging young entrepreneurship. I’m planning on publishing tips on how to start a business, resources for doing so, and interviews with/profiles of entrepreneurs. I have the website built, but before I launch I need to accumulate a fair amount of initial content so the site looks finished.
If any of you already have a business, I’d love to interview you for my website. If you’re interested, shoot me a PM.
Hey guys, I was contemplating applying to both launch and endevvr at a point but I decided that endevvr really worked in my favor due to several reasons. I sent out my application last week. Have any of you that applied around the same time as me been informed about an interview?
Also, @Slurye I’ve read a bit about your company, and I think it’s a really cool idea. I’d like to know if the endevvr cofounders are still of help to you as mentors?
@Orangebananapeel , I got deferred email from Launch. Not straight forward rejection. No idea if they did reject some.
@coolab I got deferred as well. Did you get accepted by Endevvr? And if so, are you going?
@wenlyy, I applied regular to Endevvr so waiting for the next steps now. How about you?
@potatoz
I can only speak for Launch, but this year students will be grouped by interest in specific industries/ideas that they want to work on. You come up with the idea and give inputs into the group, and they use this to put everybody together. Also, the first week our so will have a lot of class time which will decrease as people begin to work on their companies. There is an emphasis on creating an MVP (minimum viable product) to demonstrate a proof of concept, in the form of an alpha version of your project.