@frh777 that doesn’t “mean” anything. Isn’t it possibly your friend just decided to make an effort in cc? An effort not present in HS?
@xerxes what elective was it? like i mentioned, it depends on the class. Of course picking an elective like drawing will be easy at a cc, but picking an advance math or science class will not be noticeably easier when compared to a regular university.
@johnnyUSC My son is a rising Junior at USC as a CS (Games) major. He took an ADVANCED C++ programming course at our local community college last summer. It covered about the first half of his intro CS course at USC (CS 103). It was literally a joke.
I think cc’s have improved in quality over the years but still aren’t at the same level of a four-year college. I’m sure there are exceptions but they are probably few and far between.
lmao I love how people are constantly proving my point
@GamerGal27 read my comment again:
“Compared to the top schools in the country, yeah, cc classes are comparatively easy. But compared to most cal states, state schools (Alabama, i’m looking at you), and some UCs, ccc classes are very much the same.”
yeah, I agree compared to top schools like usc, cc classes are easy (like ur sons). but compare to many mediocre universities (list above), cc classes are very much the same. All i was saying at the beginning is that it’s unfair to say that cc classes are “ridiculously easy” compared to ALL universities.
@johnnyUSC I think you mean “ridiculously” instead of “comparatively”
Everybody chill out haha. It’s all subjective, no matter how you look at it. I got so excited to see there was a new page of messages but was soon disappointed to see it was just bickering over who’s right, which is "ridiculously"jr. high.
College is college, if the classes were “ridiculously” easier at community colleges, the majority of USC’s transfers would be coming from 4 year schools, but they aren’t are they? So what’s the argument? Everyone’s got the same goal here.
From what I heard from my accounting professor, who is a lawyer,CPA,CFA and USC alumni, ccc is easy. Professors at cc actually teaches you and are more lenient. For example, I took financial accounting last semester, and the class was structured into 5 exams. Each exams contain two chapters. My accounting professors(also from USC) also provided us with review and study guides to prepare us for the exam. It was an easy A if you at least put in the effort to study. I’ve seen dumb heads dropping the class simply because they thought it was “hard”. No it wasn’t hard, you were lazy. If you don’t put in the effort and quit after not understanding something, who is going to hire you in the real world? The class is structured in a way for you learn and all the information is provided there. In the real world, informations aren’t provided to you; You have to go out and find those information. No employers are going to pay you to do something mechanical(yeah, they’ll pay you minimal wage to do that). Employers pay you to solve problems and find solutions that isn’t straight forward. (Sorry i went off tangent lol)
At a top research university, like USC, professors aren’t paid to teach. They are paid to do RESEARCH, so students at top university end up teaching themselves the materials. They are not spoon fed with information by the professors. Professors are there to assist with your learning and study habits. In ccc, most professors I’ve known spoon fed their students information so they can do well, transfer out and move on with their lives. Most of the classes I took at cc are like that. My professors were generous enough to make things clear and easy for us understand as we study the materials.
Long story short, cc is easy. I’ve seen lazy students who expects professors to spoon feed them everything. I despise those students. READ THE BOOK and STUDY. no professors will tell you to memorize information and regurgitate the information on the test. that’s damn laziness if that’s what you’re expecting professors to do.
@LACCryan sorry I was bored
@John6311 she was rejected Bc she was accepted pretty late (I think first or second week of June), or at least that is what I am thinking. It was strange because we both chose each other as our roommates but couldn’t share the room I was assigned to.
But don’t worry Bc off campus housing is not as complicating as you might think. The housing people literally message you all the time and do most of the work. If you have any questions about finding an apartment or studio off campus, I’d be happy to help.
I think this whole debate is kinda silly. Yes, community college coursework is widely considered inferior than curriculum offered at a four year institution, that’s obvious. But there’s no need to cast a black cloud over others that have worked hard to achieve the type of academic success that has them a viable candidate for an institution like USC. @penntousc made an excellent point…" if the classes were “ridiculously” easier at community colleges, the majority of USC’s transfers would be coming from 4 year schools, but they aren’t are they? So what’s the argument? Everyone’s got the same goal here."
It’s funny how some of you can actually sit here and discount the coursework as being “ridiculously easy” yet nobody here was able to make their way to a four-year straight out of high school. Stop the bickering and remember that we’re all cut from the same cloth.
I mean I go to Chapman University and it’s a 4 year private university.
@frh777 Good for you, so don’t speak for others and say CC is “ridiculously easy” if you’ve never been to one. I would sound very ignorant if I talked about coursework at Chapman, right?
I’m not trying to be mean, I’m just pointing out that there are flaws in all of this. I guess our patience has run thin around here.
Good luck to everyone.
@frh777 I finished high school with a 1.8gpa, then went on to earn a 3.9 over 70+ units at a JC. It isn’t because classes are “ridiculously easier”, it’s because I finally took school serious. I would have earned that same GPA even if I went to any other university in California-- guaranteed. I’m an economics major, and I run circles around the Sophomores at UC Irvine, UCLA, or anywhere else. JC gave me the opportunity to really connect with my professors, and since I cared more about my education than everyone else, they worked with me on a personal level. Put me up in the “real world” against someone with a 3.9 from the top schools, and I guarantee I am more prepared for life than they are. Just because the professors can work with the students more doesn’t mean it’s an inferior workload.
You sound like a clown right now.
@lal08kb12004 Chill fam, you can make your point without name calling. We’re all good, let’s keep this a healthy discussion.
@frh777 you need to enlighten yourself. https://www.president.usc.edu/why-elite-universities-should-admit-more-community-college-grads/
Community College transfers graduate at the same rate as all others at USC per Max Nikias.
I’ve been reading this thread from the beginning so let me bud in. I’ve been going to one the top CC’s in the nation the last two years and let me tell you it has not been easy. If you take the correct classes that transfer to CSU & UC’s you will know for a fact that it isn’t easier. If you take dumb classes like counseling 200 or fitness classes then yes it super easy to get a 4.0 but if your like me and have challenged yourself through out your time at a CC it is much different. You also have to consider. What type of classes did your friend place into? English and math wise. All these factors come in to consideration. To say that CC’s is easy is a complete understatement especially if you never been to one.
@lal08kb12004 I also did terrible in HS and CC gave me an opportunity to resurrect my life, no doubt. I agree with your point about there being a greater opportunity to connect with professors because like you also said, they know which students are serious, and are therefore much more inclined to offer personal guidance and support. I think because @frh777 goes to a four-year he/she is looking at CC through the only lens he/she knows how, which unfortunately only perpetuates the negative stigma we face in society as CC students. You made good points, and I think we can find a middle ground though well thought arguments.
The acceptance rate at Chapman for early applicants is 67.4%. Certainly, Chapman has a decent reputation, but I find it interesting that @frh77 disparages CC transfers.
@Winston18 67.4%??? Damn! I should have applied to Chapman hahaha