50+ Women: What type of facial moisturizer do you use?

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<p>Post 159: You hugely misunderstand Christianity if you think that “pride” in a general, comprehensive sense is a character flaw. I’m not sure where you received your education in Christianity, but I will tell you that it is categorically NOT a flaw in Catholicism. Rather, vanity, a very different behavior than what I was discussing, can be a flaw, particularly when vanity is chosen <em>over</em> virtuous actions or over avoidance of immoral actions. In fact, biblically, self-love is a positive trait. Loving your neighbor AS yourself is a biblical command. Thus, when I see someone who takes appropriate pride in their appearance, without overly obsessing, I consider that they have self-respect and a sense of their inner dignity, reflected on the outside.</p>

<p>Gee, just call me shallow.:rolleyes:</p>

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<p>Report back on how you find it (the Elta MD UV Dairly SPF 30 moisturizer/sunscreen). I might try it to. Always nervous of something aggravating the rosacea but i have read that zinc based products can be good with rosacea. In fact there was a product I saw recommended several times on the rosacea forums, zinco (I think), that a lot of rosacea sufferers liked a lot. Seems to have been discontinued though.</p>

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<p>Technically I’m not yet qualified to post on this thread, but I’m curious about sunscreens, so I looked Octinoxate up:</p>

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<p>dntw8up, even assuming you’re right that pride reflects poorly on one’s character (it depends on what you’re proud of, I think!), and even assuming I believe you that you never, ever judge or form an opinion of any person based on any aspect of their appearance (a dubious proposition), I see nothing wrong with feeling good about oneself – including one’s own appearance. </p>

<p>And if that involves making a reasonable effort to preserve an appearance one is happy with, and to continue looking younger than one’s age, well, so be it. We all end up aging eventually (if we’re lucky!), but that doesn’t mean we have to be eager to get there. The comparison with racial and gender discrimination is (I think) a bit facile. Putting moisturizer on one’s face and avoiding sun damage doesn’t amount to dominating or exploiting others, and doesn’t foster discrimination against older people, any more than making an effort not to gain weight necessarily fosters discrimination against people who aren’t thin. </p>

<p>And, yes, I’ve read “The Beauty Myth”! </p>

<p>Of course, I have a somewhat different perspective on this subject than most of the other women posting here. I never had a chance to be a young woman, or even a woman in her 30’s or 40’s, really. I never appeared in public that way (at least in adulthood) until I was 48, and didn’t transition until I was 50, four years ago. I’m perfectly content to be and look like a middle-aged woman. (I far prefer it to looking like a middle-aged man.) But I’d much rather stay looking that way for a while, and not advance immediately to gray hair and wrinkles! If that’s OK. As I think [URL=<a href=“http://farm4.static.■■■■■■■■■■/3097/2629604702_bb559afc64.jpg]this[/URL”>http://farm4.static.■■■■■■■■■■/3097/2629604702_bb559afc64.jpg]this[/URL</a>] demonstrates, you are entirely correct that I – like most people – am pretty ordinary looking, but that doesn’t mean I don’t like looking my best and receiving the occasional compliment. Even if it’s only from my son! Especially after never having received a compliment on my appearance in all the years I lived in the other gender, it’s a welcome change. Vanity? Perhaps. But where’s the harm? It’s hardly the sum total of my opinion about myself, or the sole measure of my self-esteem.</p>

<p>Donna </p>

<p>PS: I’m not naive or ignorant about what women’s lives (whether young, middle-aged, or otherwise) can be like, by the way; I know full well that (among many other things), being continually judged on and valued for one’s appearance isn’t exactly a bed of roses. Still, having the opportunity to live the life I always should have at a younger age (or from the beginning) would have been infinitely better for me personally than what I actually had to live through – assuming, of course, since we’re in the realm of changing history here, that I could have had the same son!</p>

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<p>DonnaL - You look lovely!!!</p>

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<p>Back in my 20’s, even though it did nothing to help my nose, plastering full-strength zinc oxide ointment on my cheeks overnight was sometimes the only thing that would work to un-flush them and make the bright redness go away. Even though it wasn’t great for my sheets and pillowcases!</p>

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<p>Donna- you are The Bomb! </p>

<p>epiphany- Let’s go to the cosmetics counter and be shallow together! I just ordered up some Philosophy from Sephora.</p>

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<p>Donna – Well clearly your weeks in the subterranean hospital room and the rest of your awful ordeal did nothing to dim your wit, impact your intelligence, or impair your writing style! </p>

<p>BunsenBurner – Talk about not being qualified to post on this thread. A few years ago I was in Sephora looking at skin cream in Chanel’s “Age Delay” line. The young woman helping me remarked that I “qualify” for the next level – can’t recall the name, but must have been something like “Oops, Too Late” line. I found the use of the word “qualify” so funny.</p>

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<p>Donna, I agree with seiclan - you look great, and very youthful! </p>

<p>I hope that you like the Elta sunscreen, VeryHappy and Donna. swimcatsmom, I actually have rosacea, too - like almost everyone on this thread. It is quite mild. In my early 40’s, I started to have problems with flushing. I went to a dermatologist and was diagnosed with rosacea, and she prescribed metrogel (or metrocream?) and Retin-A. I had to stop taking them when I had a surprise pregnancy in my late 40’s, but the pregnancy seemed to take care of the rosacea. I haven’t had any symptoms since S2, now almost 11, came along.</p>

<p>In case anyone is interested, pregnancy at age 48 is the fountain of youth. While I was pregnant I got many compliments on my skin, hair, etc. I also noticed that all the aches and pains and stiffness disappeared, and I felt 10 years younger. Unfortunately, these nice effects did not last much longer than the pregnancy!</p>

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<p>zipyourlips, I’m laughing at the “qualify” comment!</p>

<p>MOWC, Can I come along and be shallow, too??</p>

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<p>Well at 56 I’m not going to get pregnant to cure my rosacea!! :D</p>

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<p>I’d like to thank the earlier poster who recommended EVOO for removing waterproof mascara. It did a better job than any brand I’ve used. Maybe we should have a thread about using materials found at home. Of course that would diminish the Hope In A Jar factor.</p>

<p>My dermatologist told me to use Blue Nile. Alas, the last airport security screening I went through took my bottle even though it was in the qt. ziplock bag with other things and there was clearly only about an oz. left. I used to find Blue Nile at Harmon Cosmetics but lately have only seen the travel sizes. Before that I used to mail order it from Coolibar.</p>

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What she said! </p>

<p>I’m also not giving up the coffee and red wine, which may aggravate rosacea. Life is w-a-y too short!</p>

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<p>I almost hate to bring this up but my dermatologist mentioned that the reason many of the newer sunscreens with zinc or titanium dioxide don’t make your face white anymore is because of nanoparticles, and the long term effects of nano particles are not studied. There has been some research that has shown that they cross the blood barriers and into your BRAIN. She said she would not use them herself until there was more research.</p>

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<p>Environmental Working Group’s sun screen evaluation is based on two factors: health risk (like nano particle, etc) and effectiveness against both UVA and UVB. If you go by their evaluation and use the products that score very high, you can’t go wrong on both sides.</p>

<p>Personally, I use either the powdered stuff or creamy Mexitan SPF 50 which is rated very safe and very effective. I have to say though that Mexitan does leave whitish trace. When I use it, I have to use tinted pressed powder foundation or loose powder to “restore” the skin tone.</p>

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<p>The rating system is from 0-10 and goes from low to high (in terms of what’s safe):
0-2 recommended, 3-6 use with caution, and 7-10 avoid. I try not to buy anything that’s rated over 6 and look for stuff in the recommended range, but if I love something in the use with caution range, I’ll buy it. I find that the skin care products I use are usually within the recommended range. Hate to cop to being so shallow but I use eye makeup (obviously a sign that I lack character) and my absolute favorite mascara (a MAC product) is rated a 6. I still use it.</p>

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<p>Donna, you look terrific! </p>

<p>As for sunscreen, I do use it in my moisturizer, but mostly I just stay out of the sun entirely. I’m very, very pale and don’t like the heat, so you’ll usually find me indoors or in deep shade. :)</p>

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<p>^^Booklady, that worked for me for years but now I have a Vitamin D deficiency (even with supplements and drinking enough fortified milk to stave that off). Now I’m on a therapeutic dose once a week and cautiously trying to get a little more sunshine in my life.</p>

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<p>Finally, someone who uses a product I do. I LOVE the Jane Iredale products! They are unbelievable. And yes, the pressed powder has a 20 SPF in it.</p>

<p>Earlier I mentioned that I get cold sores easily when my lips get dried out. When I am out in the sun for any length of period, I have a product I use, called Vanicream; it has an SPF of 30. It has titanium dioxide (6%) in it that basically works like zinc oxide; it’s a barrier protectant as opposed to a chemical protectant. It goes on somewhat whitish/lavendarish, but disappears within a few minutes so that you can’t tell you have it on. I have applied a dab to my nose sometimes when I want that extra protection there. It is marketed as a lip balm, but I only use it when I need sun protection on my lips, then I use the Clinique Medical line when I am not out in the sun and only need moisturizer.</p>

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<p>I can vouch for every bit of this (though pregnancy was at 42). . . Nothing has ever made me wish hormone replacement therapy was a viable option quite like that wonderful bloom.</p>