Wonder how she’ll handle it when the quadruplets complain about being the youngest?
I don’t agree with the decisions of the doctor or the mom. I do hope for the babies arrive reasonably healthy, but don’t encourage others to do same craziness.
To follow the analogy with ovens… Even if the oven is still good, put too many buns in it, and chances are high that the buns will not rise and bake as expected.
Hope the babies are going to be ok. This woman’s head needs to be examined…
Second Hanna - high multiples have hugely reduced chances of being born with normal capacities to due to premature birth compared to those with singleton births, much less a super-annuated one. Some are talking about needing to increase Germany’s birth rate - they don’t need more high needs babies. They need (if you think there is a need) more full term singleton births to competent parents.
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I totally agree about the irresponsibility of using IVF to create quads, no matter what the age of the mother. The risk of horrible complications is akin to – and probably much worse than – a woman smoking crack through her pregnancy. Or engaging in any number of other risky behaviors that society has roundly condemned. I don’t know why it is permitted.
Using IVF to create quads is irresponsible even in a 28 yo. The human body is not meant to carry multiples. (Says this mother of twins)
I agree that there should not be an intention to create triplets or quads. Was that the intent or was this the result of the typical implantation of several embryos…and four “took”?
What’s the answer? (for younger women? This woman is too old and no doctor should have agreed to doing this.)
In all ways I can think of, the MD was wrong and should not have done this, regardless of what the 65-year-old said and desired. Her actions and the MDs are highly irresponsible, especially if there is no huge fund to care for these children until they gain majority and /or are able to care for themselves.
As multiple births pose extra health risks for mom (especially one aged 65) and babies, a huge fund to cover suchbrelated costs would especially be appropriate.
Many posters have expressed concern that caring for a baby is too physically taxing for a 65 yr old woman. What are your thoughts on 65 year old adults adopting?
In dysfunctional communities, it is not unusual for relatives to be raising grandchildren or greatgrandchildren because the parents are incarcerated or are drug addicts.
pregnancy & birth is pretty taxing, even dangerous if you have any health conditions.
I’m wondering what level of hormones that the pregnant woman would need to take to maintain the pregnancy.
It’s one thing to have IVF before menopause, but after?
To answer your question, GMT.
I realize accidents happen. But to take on a ( for want of a better term) a * project* such as a child or a pet, knowing that you are likely to not be around when they need you, is vain because it implies that your time with them is more valuable than giving them the opportunity to find someone who will be in their life when they are needed.
That doesn’t apply to grandparents, because they are already part of the family.
I know people raising their grandchildren. They are not raising quads and they are not undergoing the rigors of a multiples pregnancy and childbirth at 65, but are pretty tired and candidly admit it is NOT how they envisioned this time in their lives. I admire people who step up and raise children as needed because the parent(s) for whatever or reason are unable. That is a wholly separate issue.
Some adoption agencies will not place a child where a parent is over 50. Others will not place where the combined ages of the parents total 100 or higher. These policies were enacted for the benefit of the child.
For orphans, is no parent better than an old parent?
I don’t think it’s ideal for a grandparent to raise a child. Not that they shouldn’t, couldn’t or wouldn’t if the parent isn’t able. It’s just not ideal. If I were placing a child up for adoption I wouldn’t place him/her with a 65 yo. But raising a grandchild is not even remotely the same as seeking out a new pregnancy. And I don’t think 65 yo’s should be adopting non related babies either unless there is some circumstance where there is no one else to take in the child. The fact this woman already has so many children already makes me question her mental state.
I think there is a big difference between someone adopting a baby at 65 and someone having quads at 65 with 13 children already.
The woman is in denial. She likely is the type to live in the moment. Right now she feels ok, so she assumes that she will always feel ok. But, most of us know, that each year our knees hurt a bit more, our hips hurt a bit more, etc. How we feel today is not how we’ll likely feel next year or 5 years from now.
From an article discussing the wisdom of restricting embryo implantation to one:
Post #49, it depends on the person but I wouldn’t adopt at 65 either. I don’t think I should be trusted to take care of tiny babies at 65.
She was really only trying for 1 child but all the embryos took. Her physician offered her “selective reduction” but she declined. She was surprised that she was carrying quads. I am not sure if her other pregnancies resulting in 13 children were accomplished by IVF. There are 5 fathers to those 13 children.
There is a picture in the paper of her with her 13 children and her grandchildren. They are a beautiful family and she does not look to be your typical 65 year old. She is a teacher who retires this year so I assume will be home with this new child. To each her own.
You see I don’t think this is to each her own. This is a medically ethical situation worth examining as a society. I’m the first one to get all libertarian and say every person can choose their own path. And I also think every life is valuable. However if this was such a good idea we’d see it happening all the time. We’d see ccrc’s with mother/child suites. Nursing homes/day cares in one. Mother nature tells us the ideal time for reproduction is when a woman is pretty much under 35. Like it or not. Sure women have babies after that all the time, but there is a time in life for having children for a reason.