A sad topic

<p>An email from my son this morning. A student committed suicide at his school. </p>

<p>Have any of you helped your kids deal with this from a distance. If/when this has happened how do schools respond in terms of providing support for the students after the fact? Realizing that schools may all respond differently, I looked through the schools website today and found they have lots of info available for the students regarding suicide prevention. But now that there’s been a suicide just a few months into my son’s freshman year I’m hoping they do some outreach to help the kids with their feelings following the suicide. I actually feel like contacting the mental health people at the campus just to find out…but maybe I’m overreacting. And maybe I need to call my kid so I hear his voice and we can talk a little so I can get a better sence of how my DS is handling this.</p>

<p>oaklandmom, I would give him a call. Was this someone he knew well? Even if it wasn’t, there is a bit of a shock factor. I would call the kid, tell him you love him, asking him how he is feeling about it. When you have a sense of it then you could point out the availability of mental health on campus if you feel he needs it. I think sometimes us “older folks” forget how fragile adolescence can be.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t hesitate to contact the mental health department to ask what kind of outreach they will be doing. Unfortunately after one suicide there are often one or two more that follow.</p>

<p>thanks so much. I will call him tonight. I don’t think he knew the student…but its a small campus and the freshman spend time in all the other hovses so he might have known the student. thanks PrimetimeMom, I think the unfortunte fact that often one suicide is followed by others was the concern I couldn’t find the right words to express. I guess this is the kind of thing that also reminds me how hard it is to pack them up and send them off to college…suddenly they’re dealing with things alone, mom isn’t there to talk to when difficult things happen.</p>

<p>Definitely call your son. If he has been happy and adjusted at college, I’m sure he will be fine. Was the suicide witnessed? That of course adds tremendous shock and horror to an already devastating situation.</p>

<p>oaklandmom,</p>

<p>Would you post what you find out about the schools response and support plans? My son is a student there as well.</p>

<p>I am so sorry to hear this. My prayers to the family.</p>

<p>This is a tough time of year for students on a semester schedule. Papers assigned weeks ago will be coming due. Finals are just a few weeks ahead. Students may now have enough grades back that they realize they can’t be pulling off that stellar GPA they expected. For some Thanksgiving holidays were not what they expected…especially for freshman or those with difficult family situations. </p>

<p>We all need to listen, really listen to our kids these next few weeks and make sure they know what is most important…and make sure they know it isn’t all about grades.</p>

<p>I’d send your S an e-mail message now, reaffirming your love & support & then call him tonight & chat. It is tough when kids are far away & have situations like this occurring around them. In the meantime, I’d anonymously inquire at the campus about what they’re planning to do to support students & what resources are available to students on campus for those who feel it would be helpful to reach out. You could casually e-mail and/or mention in the conversation what resources are available on campus (& at least would have correct, current info to share).</p>

<p>I agree with sax. College years can be very stressful for these kids. We know a few people who work at student health services in several selective universities and we were told a large percentage of students are on anti-depressants.
When my S was in college, a student committed suicide by jumping out of the window of his dorm, the same one my S was living. S knew him somewhat; the student was very bright, very involved with extracurricular activities on campus, very well liked and nobody had an inkling he was troubled.</p>

<p>My heart really goes out for the family. We need to remind our children that we love them unconditionally and their happiness is important to us.</p>

<p>That is so sad. A friend of my niece’s (a high school sophomore) just committed suicide. They offered the kids three days of counseling - she said it helped a lot, but, really, it’s just so awful isn’t it?</p>

<p>Really tough when these things happen and the kids don’t feel like they have options. Very tough on the survivors, especially loved ones. Laudable that the school offered three days of counseling, but probably some should consider getting more (insurers generally cover counseling).</p>

<p>The fact that college kid’s brains are not fully developed especially regarding impulsivity and that they are surrounded by a very ego-centric population that cannot possibly be in tune with other kids emotional health (again determined by age) does not help at all. At this age all these kids are thinking about is what is important to them at the time and not really noticing others.</p>

<p>Add to that drugs like alcohol which reduce inhibitations on impulsivity & impair thinking as well as being in a place where folks really don’t know each other very well, have lots of new experiences & stresses, loved ones are far away & you have a pretty potent mix.</p>

<p>oaklandmom, I am so sorry. It’s every parent’s nightmare. My S’s good friend roomed in freshman year with a child who committed suicide. He jumped out a window as my S’s friend frantically tried to break open the locked door to stop him. </p>

<p>My concern here would be any feelings of guilt. Did he know the child? Did he feel there were any advance warning signs? Is there any indication that your child might feel guilty for not recognizing the signs? (Not that the guilt is fact-based, but unfortunately it’s a common reaction.) I know that’s how I felt when a friend committed suicide.</p>

<p>The shock is terrible, then there is the “woulda shoulda coulda” that is so painful.</p>

<p>A good resource:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.jedfoundation.org/[/url]”>http://www.jedfoundation.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The Jed Foundation is committed to reducing the young adult suicide rate by furthering understanding of the underlying causes of suicide, by increasing awareness of the issue of college student mental health and suicide, and by creating effective prevention programs on college campuses.</p>

<p>I agree that hearing his voice and his hearing yours is important.</p>

<p>If your S didn’t know the student or witness the event it could be that it’ll have little emotional effect on him. I know it sounds a bit harsh but many times the parents react much more emotionally than the kids themselves do to these things since we have kids and tend to imagine ‘what if it happened to my kid?’. Of course, if your S knew him, it could be a different story.</p>

<p>It’s probably a opportune time to reinforce to your S that you’re proud of him already and that at difficult schools like his with difficult courses and courseloads, the kids (and parents) need to take a realistic approach and make sure they don’t become over-emotionally reactive to some of the difficulties that are bound to present themselves. Classes can be dropped, schedules adjusted, majors switched, and extra time for the degree taken as needed. The college is primarily a means to an end and simply needs to be managed. It can be quite stressful for high-achievers used to being at the top, sometimes with ease, to enter an environment where ‘everyone’ is at that level and the school geared to it. They may find themselves in the bottom half of a class or even failing a class for the first time in their lives. They need to learn to ‘work the system’ to their advantage (dropping, tutors, etc.) rather than over-stress. All easier said than done.</p>

<p>I would talk to your son and go from there. When I was a freshman in college there were several suicides, one of which occurred in my building and in a dramatic manner (a student jumped off of his fourth floor balcony.) I remember being in my room and having my neighbor knock on my door to tell me what happened. It wasn’t someone I knew more than by sight but it was still a difficult evening and we all sat around talking and trying to sort out our feelings. More than anything I was just sort of shell-shocked. I wasn’t in need of counseling and I didn’t need anything more from my parents than empathy about the difficult situation. Your son has already taken the first step by telling you and when you speak with him you will hopefully understand how you need to proceed.</p>

<p>When I was a college freshman my parents had to call me to tell me that one of my dearest high school friends- a young man loved by all- had set himself on fire in the middle of the Arizona State football field and died. I will never forget that call. It was new territory for me. It is a difficult thing for anyone to understand, but especially hard for a young, vibrant teenager. My son called me in July to tell me that one of his former classmates had killed himself. I could tell that my son (who doesn’t tend to show ANY emotion) was quite shaken. I did the best I could, but it is hard to be much help.</p>

<p>"If your S didn’t know the student or witness the event it could be that it’ll have little emotional effect on him. "</p>

<p>Very true. I remember at least one suicide a year when I was at Harvard. The only one that affected me was that of a girl whom I knew who threw herself under a subway shortly after she graduated. Even that – since I hadn’t known her that well – didn’t affect me that much.</p>

<p>Suicide now actually pales beside what I experienced as a college professor and the wife of a professor. One year, when I was on faculty, just before spring final exams, a student whom I had mentored for several years --even getting her a scholarship to the college – opened her dorm room and found the girl across the hall dying of stab wounds. I was the first person that my mentee called after calling police. </p>

<p>Anyway, immediately after my student informed me of the murder, I called the college’s counseling center, and they immediately went to the scene and put into action a counseling program.</p>

<p>(A male acquaintance – another student at the college --ended up pleading guilty to the murder. The apparent reason for the murder was that he had been stealing from the victim’s bank account by using her bank card, and she had noticed the thefts and was supposed to go the next day to try to identify the thief, who had been caught on camera at the automatic teller.).</p>

<p>Another year, there was a murder suicide that included a student who was in my husband’s class, and was extremely well liked, hard working, and nice. She was killed in the house she and others rented in our city in a very safe, upper middle class neighborhood. The murderer was a male acquaintance whom everyone said she was not romantically involved in: They were just longtme friends.</p>

<p>In case you’re wondering whether the school is noted for being dangerous or being in a very dangerous city – quite the contrary. It’s in a small city known for friendliness and safety. The campus itself also is very friendly.</p>

<p>My experience does make me wonder how frequently college students are killed by other students. Prior to what I have seen at the college that I had mentioned, the only other college homicide that I had ever heard of was the situation about 8 years ago in a Harvard dorm where a female undergrad student killed her roommate and then killed herself. The case was discussed in depth in, I believe, the New Yorker. I seem to recall that the article suggested that the student who killed the other may have had some kind of mental breakdown.</p>

<p>I suspect, however, that unless a colllege is very well known like Harvard, when students kill each other, the story may not be picked up beyond the local news.</p>

<p>Northstar mom,
oh my goodness, I don’t think I even want to think about the possibilities of murder on campus. I’m sure it happens, who knows how frequently.
My son sounds ok. I’ll talk to him later. I have no idea how the college is handling this yet - I’ve inquired but not received an answer.
I guess even though my son is having a great freshman year and seems to be quite happy and seems to be handling the stress of school well, I do worry about him and the other students at the school following the death of another student, especially by suicide. And the school he is at is well known for being a pressure cooker.<br>
On top of that in the past two years, one of our neighbors and good friends was murdered. And the nephews of two girls that are like sisters to my son, and like daughters to me, were killed by their mother. We have had more than our share of horror. So while I know now that my son didn’t know the student who died & was not a witness, my worry is less, but I still worry. My hope is that the school is reaching out to all the students and helping them through this whether or not they knew the student. At this point, I really really want to know what the school is doing. But I’ll talk to my son later and hopefully feel better.</p>