I don’t know about the math offerings, but would NM Tech or whatever it’s called be a consideration.
Schools like NM Tech and SD School of Mines have math but not classics or Latin as an alternative/minor.
There are plenty of schools where OP can find both including UNM.
NMT does not appear to be difficult to get admitted to:
https://www.nmt.edu/admission/entering-freshmen.php
Math courses can be found in the catalog listing:
New Mexico is definitely worth considering, but I’m not sure why NM Tech would win over UNM for this student. He can get into UNM and get the “WUE+” rate, and pay the same as in-state students (<28K/year). It has a strong math program and a strong classics department that even offers grad-level study. (Also a linguistics department, fwiw… they even have a concentration in Navajo linguistics, which probably isn’t relevant, but if he ever wanted to study the Code Talkers from a mathematical perspective, that could be pretty cool!) It’s more convenient to get to UNM, right in Albuquerque, than to NM Tech, an hour+ from ABQ.
I guess there’s the possibility that he might get a significant merit scholarship from NMT, that could tip the balance in that direction. But at near-cost-parity (about a 2K difference per year for WUE+), I would think the flagship would be a better fit.
@Lavkir can you let us what CSU service area you live in?
I wondered if NM Tech might have less general education requirements.
But YES…University of New Mexico is well worth consideration.
We are closer to CSU DH
Look at Long Beach - may be a stretch. Northridge is close. Then Fresno, SF, and Chico.
Add in ASU, UNM, and Portland State.
UNLV too if the lights of Vegas won’t be too much.
All easy access (except Chico) for you and affordable. All should meet the Latin minor (in classical studies).
Good luck.
Ps another thought is a CC with transfer in two years.
I’m confused. It sounds like he attends a rigorous HS - difficult to get top grades, a large variety of AP courses (three years of AP Physics, AP Latin, etc). Has he received any guidance from his HS counselor?
Look at this grid to see which majors are impacted at the different CSUs. I would look at campuses other than Fullerton, Long Beach, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Jose and San Luis Obispo.
When you talk about visiting, would you like to be within a couple hour drive or are you okay with him moving an hour flight away?
My main focus here is in trying to find some schools that are extremely likely to be affordable and that will (hopefully) be extremely likely admits. For the California publics, I yield to @gumbymom and @ucbalumnus for chancing.
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Cal State - Long Beach: Offers through a Master’s in math, but seems to have a fair number of students going that far in their degree program. Offers a major in classics. [Eta: this is not a likely option.]
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Cal State - Northridge: Offers through a Master’s in math (with a fair number getting one) and a minor in classics.
All the other programs I’m going to mention offer through a doctorate in math, which I would imaging would provide sufficient depth for you son’s interests in math in order to complete his bachelor’s. These are all participants in WUE, and I have provided additional info on WUE and/or other sources of merit aid at these schools.
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Boise State: Offers a minor in Latin. To get WUE, would need a 3.6 GPA ($15k off), but with a 3.4 would get $10k off or $5k off with a 3.2 GPA (source).
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U. of Hawaii: Offers a major in classics and it appears that it will grant WUE to any student that lives in the area and will stack WUE with scholarships (source).
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U. of Montana: Offers a major in classics. Here’s the info on how it grants WUE.
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U. of New Mexico: Offers a major in classics and your son would qualify for the WUE+ Scholarship (source).
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U. of Wyoming: Offers a minor in Latin. Your son may miss out on WUE, but would still be eligible for another scholarship as seen on this chart.
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Western Washington: Offers a minor in Latin. Receiving the WUE award seems unlikely, but it appears that $8k or $12k in scholarships may still be available (source).
These were among the other WUE schools that were considered that offer a doctorate in math, but they do not offer a minor in Classics or Latin: Colorado State, Montana State, New Mexico State, Northern Arizona, U. of Idaho, UNLV, U. of Nevada - Reno, Washington State
CSUDH would be extremely likely and affordable.
In my opinion, CSULB would not be extremely likely.
Yeah, I know that Long Beach is one of the more popular Cal States. I just don’t know how competitive it would be for math. But Long Beach appears to be impacted for all majors. CSU Northridge, however, is not impacted for math. As Dominguez Hills did not offer any postgraduate study and I don’t think offers any kind of Latin/Classics minor, I did not mention it:
CSULB average CSU GPA for admitted Freshman in Mathematics for 2023 was 4.01.
Not a likely option.
I have edited my post to reflect that Long Beach is not a likely option.
Been thinking a bit more about some college possibilities for your kid.
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U. at Buffalo (NY): About 21k undergrads. Offers through a doctorate in both math and classics. They’re seeking to attract more out-of-state students, and so your son may be offered sufficient merit aid here to make it affordable.
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U. of Rochester (NY): About 6800 undergrads. Offers through a doctorate in math and a bachelor’s in classics. There are very minimal distribution requirements (it’s a fairly open curriculum). Your son’s chances would probably be best with an ED or ED2 application, but it would hit a lot of what you’re asking for.
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U. of Texas – Dallas: About 22k undergrads. Offers through a PhD in math, but no Latin minor is available. If your son gets a scholarship (Academic Excellence Scholarship) then he would automatically qualify for in-state tuition, which means tuition, room & board would be less than $30k (source). UTD brings a lot of strong students to campus with its National Merit Finalist offer, and it is reported as having a more academic vibe on campus. Since Dallas is a major hub, it should be pretty easy to get direct flights home.
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Iowa State: About 25k undergrads. Offers through a PhD in math and a bachelor’s in classics. They use weighted GPAs for scholarships, so your son would be eligible for $12k/year in scholarship money, leaving tuition, room & board around $26k/year (source).
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U. of Houston: About 38k undergrads. Offers through a PhD in math and major in classical studies. If you receive a scholarship of $1k or more from the U. of Houston, your son may also qualify for in-state tuition. This means that costs would be about $21k/year, but even if your son doesn’t get in-state tuition, costs are around $33k/year. Houston is another big airport hub, so flights home should be easy.
Thank you so much. He has a good list now. With reach, target and safety. I appreciate each one of you for helping me. It has helped us come up with a list. This is my first post here. So I don’t know how to close the thread. Thank you all. We are good.
Per OP’s request, I’ve set the thread to close tomorrow at 8am ET. This will allow posters to add any final thoughts and well-wishes.
Can you share the list as it stands?
Good luck to you and to him. Don’t hesitate to return. Best wishes to him, hoping his unusual profile is seen as an asset at several good fit colleges.
I hope you’ll come back and let us know where he ends up. Best of luck to him!