<p>Just got the email notification. THRILLED to say my son just got accepted. :-)</p>

<p>Congrats to your son! I'm still waiting for my email. I'm fairly sure I'm rejected, however.</p>

<p>My D was accepted as well! Very excited.</p>

<p>Congratulations on your NU News!!!!</p>

<p>My daughter was wait listed - she got into Yale and USC but wait listed at Northwestern?!</p>

<p>Not exactly sure what the question mark means, amtc, but as I pointed out on a Northwestern thread, when you add the theatre program into the mix, you completely change the dynamics. It's not as if you could make a direct Yale to Northwestern comparison. The applicant pool for Northwestern is, perhaps, the most competitive among the available non-audition programs. </p>

<p>Congratulations on your daughter's acceptances.</p>

<p>Congrats to your D, amtc, on her fine acceptances. </p>

<p>While it may seem odd to get into Yale but not really is not when you think about the very low admit rates at these particular schools. When a school has such a low admit rate, they have to turn away applicants (not all the applicants fit this) who are just as qualified as the ones they accepted. They are building a diverse class and your D likely made the cut of those they seriously considered but didn't make the cut based on how they built the class. She clearly must be qualified in other words. </p>

<p>It is VERY common that if a student applies to several schools with very low admit rates, and who is truly very qualified for any of these schools, that some schools will come through and some will not. </p>

<p>I have a child who applied to highly competitive graduate school programs in architecture last year....most of the programs accepted fewer than 10-15% of applicants. She had a great result. But for example, she was in at MIT but not at UPenn, and MIT is ranked number two for grad schools of architecture. She was also in at Columbia which was ranked third....higher than UPenn. It happens. Didn't shock us.</p>

<p>I had a client last year get into NYU/Tisch and not UArts. </p>

<p>My own kid got into NYU/Tisch, Syracuse, Ithaca, BOCO, Penn State but not Emerson. </p>

<p>This is what happens when you apply to schools or programs with low admit rates.</p>

<p>PS....keep in mind that your D was wait listed which is akin to saying, "you meet all of our qualifications and we will accept you if there is room."</p>

<p>While I understand and agree with all you say, it is still bizarre. Add to the mix that we are a full paying, non-financial aid family, her professional acting credentials are extensive and include episodics, commercials, and stage, and her grades/test scores are almost perfect, it still makes it a bit strange. It falls into the "college admissions is a crapshoot with little logic" category. Yale's acceptance rate is around 7-9%, lower than Northwestern's Theatre acceptance rate. (She also got into two audition schools but they are not academically challenging enough and that is important to us.)</p>

<p>soozievt - I think your daughter not getting into Emerson is just as bizarre by the way.</p>

<p>We have no doubt she'll be accepted, it just doesn't change the crapshoot theory.</p>

<p>My D is a freshman theater major and LOVES it. She said she cannot see herself anywhere else. She got in ED and was set to audition at BFA schools in addition to applying to schools with BAs in theater if she had not gotten in. She loves that not all her friends are theater people BUT that the theater community at NU is so amazing. She was blown away by the level of talent. She is involved in a soriority and is enjoying taking a wide range of academic courses in addition to her theater classes. She loves that it is creatively and intellectually challenging. I'd be happy to answer any questions....</p>

<p>amtc....there is some crapshoot nature to highly selective admissions schools and that is why it is not entirely puzzling when odd results happen. </p>

<p>I do not know your daughter's college list. My own kid only applied to BFA in MT programs but her ideal choice was to go to one that also was in an academically challenging setting (she is a good student). Many BFA programs, (not all), while being highly regarded, are not necessarily located in very selective universities. ONE of the appeals of NYU/Tisch to my daughter is that it is a good BFA program but in a more selective and academically challenging school. </p>

<p>That said....I know some highly talented MT kids who chose Yale and are there now or who have graduated. I think it is an excellent option for someone like your daughter.</p>

<p>I agree with son is a soph theatre major and loves NU! He auditioned and was accepted at BFA programs, ultimately deciding enthusiastically on Northwestern. Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions. My son has many friends who are at NU off the waitlist...... I agree amtc, I have no doubt your daughter will get off the waitlist in the coming weeks/months.</p>

<p>OMG, amtc, with those startlingly superior credentials, I'm surprised your daughter would even consider Northwestern! I'm sure she'd be bored to tears among the mere mortals like my son who have been accepted there!! LOL</p>

<p>I know a number of theater kids who were accepted at both Northwestern and Yale and chose to matriculate at Yale and so it could be (I don't know) that your D might have chosen Yale anyway, no?</p>

<p>Both schoola are very attractive options for a theater or MT student.</p>

<p>Once again, Yale is not where she wants to be and how old are you perischack - a little juvenile wouldn't you say?</p>

<p>Perischack/amtc - a truce, please! Yes, p's response was a bit snarky; however, amtc, people might find your post offensive as well.</p>

<p>With any audition process (or, in the case of Northwestern, application process) I think that kids often take their cue on how to handle it from the significant adults in their lives - parents, coaches, etc. Rejection is a constant in the business your child wishes to pursue. If she doesn't develop appropriate coping skills as a young one, it is not going to get easier as she becomes more independent.</p>

<p>I know that we all want every single wish of our children to be granted, and for them to live exactly the life they choose. Reality dictates that there are going to be bumps in the road - how we choose to handle them determines how successful we are.</p>

<p>Celebrate the successes your child has achieved in the process. If Northwestern comes through, and that is her decision, great. If not, and she goes into her freshman year elsewhere with the mindset that she SHOULD have gotten into Northwestern, she will have difficulties. If she goes into her freshman year elsewhere with the thought that she is at a school where she wants to be, and which will offer her marvelous training, in a month or two, she will probably be thinking - North-who??</p>

<p>I'll cop to "snarky", MusThCC. :-) You should have seen the posts I first wrote but DIDN'T send!!</p>

<p>Your points are very well taken. We want what our kids want, and it hurts when they don't get it. Each of them have a list of accomplishments a mile long, and we struggle to make sense of outcomes that differ from our and their hopes and expectations. My son is still "sure" (and only half-joking) when he says he knows that email is coming any day now from his first-choice school apologizing and explaining they made a huge mistake and sent him a rejection letter instead of an acceptance package.</p>

<p>In the interim, we have mentally moved on and are sincerely appreciative of the options we have. In amtc's daughter's case, it is probably very likely she will get in off the waitlist. This year in particular, many people will have difficulties with the tuition at NU. How lucky she is to have that opportunity! And I'm confident, having met so many of this year's batch of incredible MT kids, that she will approach it with a sense of gratitude instead of entitlement.</p>

<p>amtc, I did not know that your D does not want to attend Yale, sorry. Why did she apply there? I can't see applying to any schools you don't want to attend. But in any case, I have to agree that nobody "should" get into any school. Even highly qualified kids, as your D definitely appears to be, will be turned away from some selective schools just due to the odds. It happens. They need to come to expect it. Those who are qualified, like your D seems to be, will get into at least one very selective school, and she has done at least that. Good for her!</p>

<p>Again, and I have posted this quite often, but I find it to be a great way to live life, "things happen for a reason", and "whatever is meant to happen will" :D.</p>

<p>I will say however that I agree with Soozie, why apply to a school that you don't want to attend? Just so you can say, I was accepted at such and such school? That to me makes no sense whatsoever. </p>

<p>My own D send applications to 12 schools, and she could see herself attend every single one of them. Sure, she had her preferences, but she worked on keeping an open mind. She was the happiest girl in the world when she was accepted to her dream school, but I know that she would have felt equally blessed to attend any of the other 11 schools, if that was where she was meant to go, as she was well aware how unpredictable this process was. </p>

<p>Life is just not fair and logical, especially in the field our kids our pursuing, where one can argue non stop if the most talented person got the lead, and I believe it is best when you learn to appreciate what you have, and don't waste time focusing on what you don't have. :D.</p>

<p>amtc and perischack - congrats on your kids' success; they are among a select group of lucky kids!</p>

<p>Don't know if there's a new thread each year, but the ED acceptances started going out yesterday, and DD is in... hoorah!!</p>

<p>Are there any folks here waiting for news from NU? Is it your understanding that you'll hear something in a couple of weeks?</p>

<p>D is really looking forward to having the entire class assembled at long last, so we're crossing our fingers for everyone!!</p>