Simple. They do it to make the school look more selective. That way they can show higher GPA and test scores for asmission. tOSU is not the only school that does it. 60% of Penn State grads start at the Commonwealth Campuses and get a guaranteed transfer to University Park after 2 years if they have a 2.0 (some majors require higher gpa).
This seems like a good thing to me. I’m sure that OSU wants to admit students who will be successful. If they aren’t sure a student will be successful when they review a student’s freshman application, then that student still has an opportunity to prove themselves at another university and try again.
You’ve also made some assumptions.
“ they say no to a Freshman prospective student who is not qualified to be accepted to OSU as a Freshman” — many qualified students are denied freshman admission simply of space available in a program. “ will gladly admit the same student after their first year at an inferior college” — students transfer for a variety of reasons, not all are coming from an “inferior” college.
Just curious…did you apply to OSU? Seems like all your posts here are negative.
@Brutus111 @NYCDadof2 It also could relate to retention. Freshman retention is a big deal to them, and transfer students seem lower risk. Once someone has shown that they can do well their first year (even at a different campus), I would assume it increases their chance of success elsewhere. In other words, they let those students either prove themselves or wash out at a different campus. I’m speculating of course.
@Brutus111 “The other problem I have with OSU is that the freshman acceptance rate is less than 50% but their transfer rate is more than 80%”
This not unique to OSU. I call this the getting in through the “backdoor”. Freshmen Admission is one of those things that for us on the outside, it looks very different than from those on the inside (admission officers). They have it down to a science and it changes very little from year to year. In the case of OSU, they know that they typically get about 50K plus applications. They will accept about half of those by prioritizing certain stats (GPA, Rigor, and then scores) and weeding out those will lower stats UNLESS they have a hook that is important to them in order to build a freshman class {URM, Geography, etc)
They can assume that about one 1/3 of those admitted students will enroll. Their acceptances will come in waves and they will also keep an eye on the number of kids enrolling and the number of kids being admitted to a certain major. They will continue to manage admissions on a weekly basis and as they get into late January maybe even manage into on a daily basis until they reach their goals. The school is very transparent with it comes to application data. They post the numbers every week.
Those applicants who are deferred will go in back into the pool of applications, but they will probably only get to them once they go through the other waves of applicants whose applications, they have not seen. It is imperative for those students who have been deferred to make sure they have other options. That is not to say, that they will eventually not get admitted, but waiting until March or April without having any other viable options does not seem like a sound plan.
Having said that, schools such as OSU are not as selective when it comes to transfers as long as some basic numbers are met. Assuming you have a certain amount of college credit hours, your high school GPA and your ACT scores might not be required. However, getting accepted into certain programs within the school might be just as challenging as gaining admission as a first-year student (Engineering, Fisher, Nursing) Many schools are the same way. As an example, Florida and Georgia are extremely competitive when it comes to first-year admissions. Perhaps even more competitive than OSU. However, both of these schools are relatively easy to get into once a student has gained 30 hours of college credits.
Checked my portal on 12/13 at 5:00pm EST, got accepted! Let’s go Bucks!!!
ACT: N/A
SAT: 1340
GPA: 3.78UW/ 4.58W
Rank: 6/200
Extra: Volunteer at Veterans Hospital, Track/Cross country, barista, 8 APs total, the rest honors
State Residency: Maryland
Gender: Male
Applied date: 09/21/2019
Decision date: 12/13/2019
College of Agricultural Sciences
Major: Agribusiness
At this point will they give out more decisions next week before the holidays? Still haven’t heard It really is so stressful not to have an answer
“252 (62 percent) were qualified for review and considered for admission. 212 (52 percent) were from Ohio State pre-nursing students, 109 of whom were offered admission. The remaining students were admitted from other majors at Ohio State, regional campuses and transfer students from other colleges and universities.
BSN Admissions | The Ohio State University College of Nursing”
https://nursing.osu.edu › undergraduate › bachelor-science-nursing › bsn-ad…
These are the nursing stats from OSU’s website. If my math is correct, approximately 406 pre-nursing students were accepted and 62% (252) are CONSIDERED for review and ultimately only 109 OSU pre-nursing students were offered admission. That equates to about 25% of the pre-nursing students who were accepted as Freshman at OSU actually get accepted into their major. I have no problem with “weeding out” some students but weeding out but 75% of them is a joke. 10-15% would make more sense. Weed them out during their admission as a Freshman. Just seems like a money grab to me.
I am only mentioning this because I am not sure how many students realize these percentages
OOS DS accepted to COE - CS, Applied: 10/31 Accepted: 12/13, ACT: 35 (0ne sitting), UW GPA: 97.24, W GPA: N/A, 11 APs. Congrats to all! Go Bucks - Beat the Tigers!
That might make a difference to lower tier institutions, but tOSU is rejecting first year applicants that more than capable of doing well in college. Like I said, it isn’t just tOSU that does it. tOSU is a great school, no doubt, but there is no reason why a kid with an 1150 SAT and a 3.0 GPA could not succeed or even excel there out of high school. For me, I would think the size of the school would be more of a challenge than any academics.
Full disclosure, I was accepted there back in the 1990s, I grew up in the area and it was less selective, but not as easy to get in as it was during the Rhoades administration - I chose to go to school elsewhere, but not because of anything bad with tOSU.
Doesn’t success of any particular student in college depend on the college’s level of academic rigor?
And isn’t the level of rigor at any college targeted, give or take, at the middle of its class?
I agree and this is why our daughter is leaning toward a direct admit program. Her heart is at OSU, but her head knows the direct admit program is the smart choice.
Applied 8/1 OOS but still in evaluation.
DD accepted last night 1:15 am email came in!
SAT 1340
GPA 4.0
9 APs
OOS NY
College of Engineering
Major Aeronautical Engineering
Applied 10/28
Accepted 12/14
Very excited good luck to all!
TheVulcan - Are you implying that a student that has an 86% avg (3.0 UW) vs 95% avg (4.0 UW) taking the same difficult classes will negatively impact academic rigor?
I am not implying it, I am outright saying that ability grouping is a proven academic technique to deliver more level-appropriate instruction.
I will respectfully bow out from this thread before this gets ugly:)
I checked my portal yesterday and I was admitted to the college of engineering, but I haven’t received an email? Looking at previous posts it seems like they send emails at around midnight, but it’s mid afternoon now. What should I do?
Nothing…my son didn’t get his email for 3 days. I am sure you are good.
Thank you so much! This put me at ease! I’ll be expecting it though!!
Accepted!
OOS
ACT: 30
GPA: 4.35W, 3.78UW
No class rank
5 APs
Applied: 10/31
Accepted: 12/13
Fisher College of Business
Major: Marketing
Has anyone heard back that applied to OSU’s Scholars Program? I’m seeing some being admitted into the Honors Program, but nothing about the Scholars. Does it tend to take a little bit longer to hear back when applying for Scholars or is it just random?