Advice - Family dynamics, I'm an adult, but still the child! :)

<p>If you don’t want to go visit, then just say no. You have lots of reasons why you can’t–just reiterate them to your mother. I think agnozing over your decision just makes it worse. You’ll probably feel better if you just give a straight up answer.</p>

<p>I have adult children and I don’t get bent out of shape if I suggest getting together and they can’t do it. We talk and text–so it’s not like we aren’t in contact. I don’t get why you are agonizing. Same thing with your inlaws. If you don’t want to go visit–just tell them. Also, I’d second the suggestion that your husband doesn’t have to go with you to see your family. Similarly, I don’t think you need to go with him to see his family. </p>

<p>Finally, why not just send your kids over to see their grandparents–you don’t have to go either. I’m assuming that the child in college drives.</p>

<p>My H and I often see our respective parents by ourselves. I don’t see the need to get dragged into his mom’s drama and my mom likes to maximize our time together which is so much easier without DH around. With kids, you just have to set your own limits and everybody else gets to work around you a bit. And nobody needs to know how often you visit who or how much.</p>

<p>“You’ll feel better if you give a straight answer.”
Definitely. It takes a bit of bravery after years of side-stepping parents but gets easier with practice. And you gain their respect. Push past the parent-kid role.</p>

<p>Surfcity-
I can appreciate what you are talking about, what you are describing was a big part of my life and such. It isn’t easy dealing with issues like this, and it is very easy to say “oh, you should see as much of your parents as possible, because someday they will be gone”, if the relationship with the parents is not easy, especially in context of having your own family.</p>

<p>I grew up with that kind of situation, and it caused all kinds of friction and problems and messed up stuff. Basically, my dad never separated properly from his family (long story, he was much older than his siblings, in a sense raised them, etc), and there was this dynamic where his extended family dominated our lives, and it wasn’t healthy. Whether it was visiting, or this weird sense of obligation to ‘the family’, it wasn’t healthy, but I grew up with that…and meanwhile, we rarely saw my mom’s side of the family (who to be honest, I liked a lot more than my dad’s family). </p>

<p>The problem is that came down into my own life, and I don’t know how my wife put up with it for so long, we spent a lot of time with my parents (it didn’t help that their relationship was a nightmare), it dominated our lives, either going there or them visiting us, family members showing up unannounced, etc. Yours might not be as bad as this, but your DH may be expressing something there, too, that maybe your parents have dominated things (and not knowing you, just saying he could be right). My mom had to be frustrated and angry (I know she was) with my father’s family dominating like that, and it made life in our household growing up not so great…and I was on the path to doing the same thing, did it for a number of years…</p>

<p>It took me several years of therapy to realize it was unhealthy, and that kids have their own lives and families and parents have to take a backseat. Sure, I would love in the future when my S is married and has kids, if he goes that route, that I would see him, but I also understand his family would be his family, with things they need to do. The key is in setting rational boundaries, some parents as my father especially didn’t realize, don’t make that break and realize their children have grown and have their own lives, where ‘their family’ has to outweight ‘the family’. </p>

<p>To be honest, if it is hard for you to do, remember your kids are picking this up, too, and they can end up with the same problems down the road when they have their own families. My therapist raised 4 kids, she sees them and her grandchildren a lot, but she also has her own life,too. Her kids like each other in part because their dynamic is healthy,whereas I don’t talk to my siblings and yes, the family dynamic is to a large part at fault.</p>

<p>On the other hand, I would like to think my son when his time comes knows we understand, and that any time we have with him and his family is a blessing, but that they have their own lives. We are close with our S, and I am sure he will keep in touch, if through texting and whatever comes down the road, so we will know about what is going on, and time we spent together I hope will be precious, but also know his life has to take precedence. </p>

<p>I understand the guilt issues only too well (my dad was Italian-American, need I say more? <em>lol</em>) and as children it is hard not to, because our parents spent a lot of time and effort and sacrificed to raise us…but then again, that is what a parent is supposed to do, it is what I do for my son (and quite honestly, what I have done makes what my own parents did pale in comparison in many ways), and while I can hope he wants me part of his life going down the road, it isn’t an obligation, because he is his own person and will have his own family and my part in that is up to him, not me. It is a hard pill to swallow, i can understand that, but it is how it has to be, when kids become adults they have their own life, and we as parents have our own, and they will mix, but not at our beck and call as parents. </p>

<p>I wish you luck, I encourage you to think about your family life, with your DH and kids, and think about what is fair to them and DH and try to find a middle ground, that will give your parents access to your life but also is not overbearing, and think about it because in the not all that distant future, your kids will have their own life and you will be facing it from the parents perspective:). I wish you well, and know that in the end, your parents will love you even if they grumble a bit, if you set reasonable bounds with visiting and such:)</p>

<p>Thank you for all your perspective. DH and will be chatting about all the upcoming holidays and our schedules, so we’ll get some dates on the calendar and try to find middle ground that works for everyone as best we can.</p>

<p>I agree that if the grandparents are able, that they should come to your house on Saturday. If they come early enough they Ought be able to,catch the kids for a while.</p>

<p>My MIL lived about an hour away and could never seem to come see us when the kids were in HS and jr high (well really ever). We felt that it was much harder for us to coordinate everybody, with the sports schedules, school, work, etc, drive down there,visit and drive back. With the kids’ schedule it was much easier for our family if she would have come here. She didn’t work or anything. I guess she wanted an engraved invitation when all we offered was a more casual “why don’t you stop by?” (Not counting family occasions of course). My mom lived further and had no,problem coming by, babysitting, or inviting us to drop the kids off for the weekend.</p>

<p>Your problem doesn’t seem to be the same as mine (my mil was more selfish–sort of like a martyr and things had to be about her) but the concept of time and convenience of visiting is similar. </p>

<p>My parents thought it was about the kids, my mil was more about her. (Still is). (Example, my hubby, my sil and her infant had to fly down to visit mil-now in Fl- wouldn’t it have made more sense for her to fly here? Sorry for the off-topic rant!)</p>

<p>Update: Plans with DH’s family fell through (they didn’t feel like making the drive :wink: )so we are free for the weekend. But we decided to go back to my parents house after the Thanksgiving dinner at my cousins.</p>

<p>Too often I try to anticipate what Dh is thinking, and I was assuming he would put up a fight about that. He said it was reasonable that they would want to have more of a visit, but he was just concerned that the kids will act bored if grandma tries to push food or games on them.</p>

<p>So I decided to ask my mom if there were any chores my son could do for them while they were there and she was so happy to ask if he would get their Christmas tree and ornaments out of the attic for them, and maybe look at the computer to see why it was slow. My daughter can help go through the decorations for her.</p>

<p>So now everybody is happy. (Well Son doesn’t know about the chores but I think it will make him feel good to help them out).</p>

<p>Thank you all and I wish you a happy holiday with your family, friends, children, neighbors or whomever you spend time with.</p>

<p>I like the solution you ended up with! My kids-even the grown ones-still like to hear stories about when their parents were the kids and the decorations and ornaments that they had. While getting that stuff out, your kids will have a golden opportunity to hear some memories they may grow to cherish. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!</p>