<p>No…I Want a grace period. Have to give the buyers a chance to pay. </p>
<p>That shouldnt be a problem for you because you dont think 500,000 people are going to sign up. ;)</p>
<p>It is easier to count sign ups. What is your magic number on signups so we can have a bet and dont have to rely on insurance companies providing us with any information. </p>
<p>I will bet there will be more than 500,000 signups by Apr 1.</p>
<p>You put up that link that said there wont.</p>
<p>How long a grace period? I don’t trust the signup numbers. If this is anything like Chicago ward politics, we could have a lot of dead people signing up.</p>
<p>I dont think we are going to get the paid mumbers.</p>
<p>The great thing about the sign up numbers is those numbers will be verified by the insurance companies.</p>
<p>You dont believe the insurance company numbers?</p>
<p>See…</p>
<p>Isnt this great?</p>
<p>Verification.</p>
<p>[LA</a> Times](<a href=“http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-78535609/]LA”>http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-78535609/)</p>
<p>"Anthem has 32,241 enrollees, or 30% of California’s enrollment through Nov. 30, Covered California said. Blue Shield is next with 29,952 customers, or a 27% share.</p>
<p>Kaiser Permanente, the state’s biggest HMO, grabbed 24% of enrollment with 25,869 people. Woodland Hills-based insurer Health Net Inc. is fourth with 17,037 people, or a 16% share."</p>
<p>Signup numbers are meaningless unless these people pay for the insurance. You could signup a billion people, but if no one pays, then you have zero people with insurance.</p>
<p>Ok…do I get a month’s grace period? That is what I get from Anthem now.</p>
<p>Will this new development change open enrollment periods?</p>
<p>So 500,000 Covered California subscribers (excluding Medicaid) who have signed up by March 31 and have made their first premium payment by April 31?</p>
<p>Has to be April 30. Only 30 days in April.</p>
<p>GP, just out of curiosity, why don’t you use the “edit” button rather than posting 3, 4, 5+ times in a row?</p>
<p>Samurai, how do you think it changes the enrollment period?</p>
<p>There is no Apr 31. </p>
<p>May 1.</p>
<p>What is a subscriber? </p>
<p>There are 4 people in my plan. I pay for 4 people. That counts as 4 paid.</p>
<p>How much do you want to bet?</p>
<p>I want to bet both paid and sign ups. Two bets.</p>
<p>I have ADHD. :)</p>
<p>No, we’re talking insurance policies or plans.</p>
<p>I don’t think the new development changes enrollment much in California. Most people who had insurance want insurance. </p>
<p>GP, if dstark doesn’t take that bet, I’ll take it. It’s a pain in the neck to sign up. Few people will sign up and then not pay. And just to be clear, we’re talking about 500,000 people, not 500,000 policies, correct? </p>
<p>[xposted. Now I see we’re talking 500,000 policies, or over a million people. That’s not the bet I want to make. The projected 7 million nationwide were 7 million people. You want over a seventh of them to be in California?]</p>
<p>CF, see my post 7714</p>
<p>Oh, GP, you are certain this is all doomed. And yet you commented earlier that it’s just too soon to predict. I guess you meant too early to see any good, but overdue on the glass half empty stuff. </p>
<p>It’s not perfect. Ok?</p>
<p>LF, I thought this law was doomed 4 years ago.</p>
<p>Well if it makes you feel any better lf, my glass is half full. And when it’s empty, I’m filling it back up again…</p>
<p>Bd, mind sharing some of that wine? My glass is empty ;)</p>