Agnostic & bad public school-- please help w/private school choice

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<p>This is the exact reverse of the experience of families I know in my area.</p>

<p>Several of them–I can think of four families off the top of my head-- had LD children at a leading private elementary school in the area. In ALL cases the children ultimately moved to one of the local public schools, where their achievement leaped ahead in a short time because for the first time they were receiving competent special ed help. One child I know was actually hiding under his desk at reading time at the private school, and moved ahead 3 grade levels in reading in his first semester at our public school. As he improved, he eventually became technically ineligible for services, since his achievement did not lag his ability, but the special ed program head kept him in the program knowing that he needed support to continue that level of achievement. (Info supplied by his mom, who was actually a preschool teacher at the private school.)</p>

<p>The private schools did not have the expertise to diagnose issues. Typically, kids were diagnosed on the dime of the local public school system even though attending private school. Once diagnosed, the private schools attempted to meet the need by arranging for tutoring at the parent’s expense–tutoring that was uniformly incompetent. In some cases, the private schools asked that the special ed kid be withdrawn from the school.</p>

<p>In the case of educating and engaging a student with learning differences and high potential, looking at the individual private and public is necessary. There is no general rule here. In our major metropolitan area, the public schools are generally good. One county is well know for being terrible in special education. Some privates lack the staff, others are very, very good at accommodating students of all educational needs.</p>

<p>I would highly recommend private evaluation to find out what challenges the student is facing. You then know what to look for in a school. Public, private, catholic, charter… it really doesn’t matter to the OP. The best education for their student is the concern. You can not fully determine that until you know the students needs.</p>

<p>blueiguana, that is quite true.</p>

<p>In our case, there were no school choices and so I am just suggesting that ONE option to consider is advocating for accommodations for a child even within a public school. Sometimes you have to break new ground, even if a school hasn’t done X or Y before. There are lots of ways to meet a kid’s learning needs even without changing schools.</p>

<p>Hi again all! As there has been so much activity, I can’t address all you individually, but I thank everyone for their input! This whole situation has consumed every waking minute, and I don’t know what I would do if I did not have you people on here to help me. </p>

<p>I was out the entire day and evening with my son yesterday, taking him to violin, then the farmer’s market, then clothes shopping. I bought a mix of clothes, because I did not know what else to do. </p>

<p>I came home to find a pleasantly shocking piece of mail – my son has been chosen by an outside organization to receive a scholarship to any school of my choice. I had no hope of this. The deadline to apply was April 30th. I had told the Catholic school that I had sent the scholarship fund a letter, and they had said “forget that, their money is gone”. I don’t know what I did --if it was sending my son’s picture with a letter about him, the 2nd letter telling them the names of the schools who want my son, or the message I left on the machine for that fund asking them to please call me and tell me if there is any hope, but something worked.</p>

<p>It’s not a huge scholarship, but it’s enough to level the field significantly enough to make the tuition difference of the schools insignificant. Other updates are that I had been told by a secretary at the Catholic school on Friday that the priest was going to expect full tuition (really ticked me off. I didn’t have to go visit at 8 AM and lay bare my life for that, they could have told me that on the phone). However, I got a call from the nun/principal today, and she said that the priest will let him come for the parishioner rate. </p>

<p>I also got a call from the principal of an excellent and expensive secular school. I had sent them the same letter as everyone else, and they had responded with “here’s an application, pay the application fee”. I told her point blank that irregardless of acceptance, it will be an empty acceptance if they are out of aid. If I had to pay everyone a fee just to have him accepted, and then be told “but we’re out of aid”, I wouldn’t need aid! She told me to send her the application personally and that he might be a late admission, but that if I want my son at her school, it’s been done.</p>

<p>So putting all of THAT aside, here’s where I am at:</p>

<p>My son is starting with a new pediatrician on Tuesday for his school physical, and I fully intend to immediately pursue an appointment with a neurologist. I don’t now if he has dyslexia, but I also am personally going to do some research online. I will show my son how to implement any measures that he can to deal with his barriers to learning. There is a maturity issue here, but this is middle school, and he has to learn to self-examine before high school. I am going to tell him that if he encounters some academic problem, he needs to start making the effort to identify what that problem is. Even though he’s really affectionate and constantly wants attention, when there is a problem or he is hurt, his instinct seems to be to hide. </p>

<p>My son lost school night video game and TV usage in the 3rd grade. My son seemed to need a lot of help with homework in the 4th grade, and it was very time consuming. We had to tell him to do his homework, then I had to help him with it, then I had to supplement his math and nag him to read. I really felt that he would have failed if I had not done this.</p>

<p>At the beginning of 5th grade, I got very involved in a serious case that consumed so much of my time that I couldn’t be there to do all of that nagging and supplementation. I told the principal at the beginning of the year that he was going to have to sink or swim because there was nothing that I could do about this case. At the beginning of the year, I did think that my son could fail. Without me there, my son did not do his nightly reading time, did not fill out his reading log. I helped with some math here and there, but did not supplement him and had no real knowledge of what he was doing in school. Surprisingly, even without my usual intervention, he did ok. I received no bad reports, other than that he forgot his oboe and missed some lessons. He was in a reading lab during that time. He raised his reading level significantly on his own just by in school work. His spelling went from poor to what I would say is very good. He didn’t fail anything, his report card listed no problems with socialization, other than that he has trouble working independently. But even for that, it was “needs improvement” rather than “satisfactory”.</p>

<p>There was a time that he was physically ready to compete in gymnastics, but was not emotionally ready to compete. Last year, he was aging out of recreational gymnastics and had mastered all of the skills. It was compete or quit. After a lot of angst, and his saying “How about I just quit”, we just sent him. We said that we couldn’t let him avoid something he’s good at just out of a fear of competition, competition is a part of life. And it was like there had never been an issue. He worked hard, laughed with his teammates, had a good time. It’s now a non-issue. It’s like he argues just for the sake of arguing. </p>

<p>Actually, when I think about it, he wanted to quit tap after he was put into a harder class. He said that it was too hard. But his tap teacher said that he could do whatever she showed him only after one or two showings, if she personally took the time to show him, and that he was very intelligent. And again, he did rise the occasion, as was apparent at his recital. He never practices outside of class and he remembers routines from 5 different dance styles. And smiles at all of the attention on stage.</p>

<p>So I think to myself – Yes, he doesn’t like to read. But he says that he doesn’t like to do a lot of things, and then he does them. If I just sent my son to the Jewish school with this dual program, where he’s surrounded by other kids who do all of this as the norm, wouldn’t he rise to the occasion? He’s done it before. I love the idea previously posted of treating this as a cultural experience. It would be like an immersion program. </p>

<p>I was thinking of the Jewish school all yesterday. I feel a strong leaning, and I’ve been trying to identify why. Some of it was their generosity. But also, I had a very sad upbringing and a cruel father. I went to a very competitive high school. My high school principal seemed so stern. But during my senior year, I took a stand, and left my home. My mother finally ended her abusive marriage to my father because of it. I had to work full time, missed half of my senior year. I was afraid of men, but I went to him, and promised that I’d pass those exams if only I could take them. He said that he didn’t have to let me, but he would, so long as I was there everyday. I somehow passed those exams, and later got a scholarship to college. I would have been a high school dropout if not for him. The first kindness of a man shown to me in my life was not of my father, or of my priest, but of a Jewish man. On the other hand, despite attending every Sunday mass and Holy Day of Obligation, my childhood Catholic priests turned their back on my abused mother and her children (me). Many of the Catholics of my neighborhood physically abused their children. In my neighborhood, everyone was Catholic. There was a respected men of the community (not a priest) who purported to be a religious, upstanding man. I saw his wife in church. He was actually a pedophile, and he died as if he was an honorable man. His victims got no help, weren’t even believed, because he was “a pillar of the community”. He wasn’t the only one, as several other perverts of the neighborhood were later revealed by children that I knew, although those perverts were caught and run out of town or convicted. But us kids, we were taught obedience and how to save face, at any cost. And look where it got us… </p>

<p>20 years later, this still affects me, it makes me cry to write about this. Maybe it’s just PMS, but… After what I’ve been through, and due to the scandals of the church, my husband and I are both not comfortable leaving our 11 year old son with a priest. I could leave my son with the nuns and the teachers. But how am I going to feel if the priest is heavily involved? Most parents see this as a good thing, but for me, it scares me. At the high school level, I’m not worried. But right now, he’s still little and trusting and affectionate. Like I was.</p>

<p>I know that this is not entirely rational and it 's not fair to priests. I knew many kind priests. And just because my Jewish principal was kind doesn’t mean that all Jewish men are kinder than Catholic men. But the fact that the Jewish male principal offered such a generous scholarship to my son meant something to me. I’m not religious, but it’s like I’m being superstitious. I never knew the magnitude of what my principal did for me at the time, but is there a reason for this, like what happened to me? Is this what I’m supposed to do for my son? I almost feel like if I pass on this, I am going to be left wondering that I missed something significant. But that is irrational.</p>

<p>On an academic level, the school is from 8:20-3. That doesn’t seem bad to me. They participate in math Olympiad and an international invention convention. All of their students scored a 4 or superior on state science tests. Their 6th grade is working on 7th grade math, so I am concerned about whether my son can jump right in. But they do appear to have a person assigned for resource. If my son can rise to the occasion, he would undoubtedly leave with an excellent educational and cultural experience. I am concerned about how or if he should reveal that he is not Jewish to other children if it comes up. I also note that in addition to the lunch being dairy or parve, the school will not allowed food brought from home, so I am concerned about what the heck I can feed him that is not pre-purchased garbage. </p>

<p>In fact, of the schools, only the Waldorf has begun a high school, so he’d leave all of these schools after 8th grade. The best private high schools are Catholic. </p>

<p>Ok, so the Catholic school also called. On an academic level, other than the “immersion experience”, I agree that they can give him what the Jewish school can. There would be no religious clash, as I know the traditions, even if I don’t participate. My son will not know the Jewish prayers, rituals, etc, that’s true. I’ll have to take back my son’s clothes and trade them in for uniforms. But he’d deal with it. I’m actually not certain that this school would deal well with a learning problem though. When the nun called, she was very no nonsense. Even when I thanked her, I never heard a smile enter her voice. She was keen on getting his report cards, and I told her that my son got a 3 of 4 on his NYS math test and she said “That’s ok”. They are very high ranking on their tests, and I got the distinct feeling that if he had gotten a 2, and needed work, that he might not be acceptable. She told me to have him report to school on Wednesday in his uniform… As much as they rile me, as a mother, I can’t lightly dismiss this school because of that.</p>

<p>I’m also supposed to see the Waldorf school on Tuesday. I almost feel like I want my son away from all of these “standards” and conservative types and send him there where he can be free of uniforms and super high achievers. I love lazure painting, dancing, and imaging him running through their wooded acres, and I know that that builder in him would love the handwork. But given my son’s bent towards science, would I be neglecting him if they are unable to offer him a good science education? In reality, how would he compete with the children at the Jewish and Catholic school, who went to math olympiad? </p>

<p>Everywhere starts this week. Everyone has been so generous that it would be a slap in the face if they realized that I’m still investigating the right place. I can’t delay starting him SOMEWHERE. I’m seriously thinking of the following: </p>

<p>1) Start him at the Jewish school on Tuesday morning. He’s got a physical Tuesday afternoon, and an appointment at Waldorf to see the school. The physical gives an excuse without revealing all of it.</p>

<p>2) Let him go to the Catholic School on Wedesday. There’s a half a day at the Jewish school anyhow.</p>

<p>3) The Waldorf school starts Thursday. I can’t see having my son blow off the Jewish school for another day, or the Catholic school, to go there for the day. But there are a lot of Jewish holidays and half days if he is there. Maybe I can tell the Waldorf that he’ll come to shadow on a half day.</p>

<p>4) I can continue to investigate the secular school. There will be no immediate answers with them anyhow.</p>

<p>5) I have until 9/15 to turn in paperwork to the independent scholarship on the chosen school. The scholarship will move with him if we change our mind.</p>

<p>6) If we don’t show up at the Jewish school, I’m sure their very generous offer will go away, and I’ll never be able to make up a 10K loss of scholarship. If we don’t show up at the Catholic school, we’d probably lose the non-parishioner rate, but it’s still within range. They may refuse to admit him though. Their is no current expectation with Waldorf, other than to come Tuesday. No expectation with the secular school.</p>

<p>Any advice on what I should do is greatly appreciated. My husband is just leaving this to me…</p>

<p>I would not be into starting three different schools this week. That is just confusing for your child. Also, I don’t think he or you will be able to assess how much he likes it after just one day anyway. I think you need to weigh the pros and cons of each choice and make a choice. Sorry if that is not what you wanted to hear. But since you asked…</p>

<p>Also, now that a secular private school will accept him (I think you are saying that), that sounds like an excellent option (if you like the school) and solves the religious issues and the fact that you are not keen on sending him to the public school.</p>

<p>I’m going to vote for the secular school.<br>
Your student does not like change. He resists trying new things and needs prodding. That’s not a bad thing, however something you need to consider. The stark difference he may encounter in culture at the religious schools, no matter how welcoming they may be, may be too much for your student. A new school is going to be a large change and cause for anxiety. Feeling so much different from his peers, for a student that is sensitive to begin with, may be overwhelming.</p>

<p>What a big decision to have to make immediately! But your son has several great opportunities - he must be a great kid! I would not consider the Catholic school, given your background and the less-than-warm interactions you’ve had with the school. (I was raised Catholic, and lived in an all-Catholic neighborhood, and went to Catholic schools, and I also saw much of what you describe.) </p>

<p>I do know something about Waldorf schools. My husband attended Waldorf elementary schools, and I looked into them for S1. It did not work out because of logistics, but I find their system very attractive and it would have been my first choice. My husband and I are physicists and S1 is a science kid, like your son. From what I can tell, the Waldorf schools offer excellent academics in a nurturing, “alternative” atmosphere. I don’t know which school you are considering, so I don’t know whether this is true there. But in general, they are very strong academically. </p>

<p>I would not consider a school that taught creationism for a microsecond. </p>

<p>I would not have your son start at several different schools! Choose one, and commit to it. In your place, I would choose the secular school or the Waldorf school.</p>

<p>My concern of the Waldorf school is that the student will be going through finding a new school again in a few years. Putting him in such a different academic environment, while a good experience, may make it very hard to assimilate to a more traditional school in high school.</p>

<p>I may be very wrong. Just something to consider.</p>

<p>Just a note: you said your son needs to see a neurologist. If this was for possible ld/ dyslexia evaluation, that’s not who you need. You need a neuropsychologist, also known as a school psychologist. They’re not counseling/clinical psychologists; they are experts in educational testing and learning who will administer a battery of tests and write them up. Your health insurance may or may not cover it because many of them consider it an educational expense. The out of pocket costs, around here, are in the 4-digits. If you cannot afford that, you can request free testing from your public school psychologist even if he doesn’t attend. You would write a letter to the principal saying that you would like your son tested for learning disabilities and they would have to get back to you to schedule something. (They may start with an appointment were you share your concerns.) The process will probably take months but could take just weeks, especially if you find a private tester who can put him on his/her calendar sooner. </p>

<p>Given what you wrote, I would rule out the Catholic school. Even <em>if</em> they are the best academic environment, it may not be a place where you can reasonably and adequately advocate for your son. It seems like there’s too much history there.</p>

<p>I commend you for trying so hard to be a great parent. You are because you are trying to do more (obviously much more) than your parents did for you. When all is said an done however you are the parent and you have to make decisions. Your decision, obviously, is not one of serendipity. Pick the best, be it for geographic, religious, immersion or not, social, and/or emotional reasons. And then be proud that you have truly tried your best.</p>

<p>A note to teachers and principals out there: Here is an example of how one person changes a life. You can do amazing things everyday.</p>

<p>And to quote my grandfather: (I was very sick as a child, in the hospital for two weeks.) My grandfather looked at my mother who was barely standing from stress and fatique and said, “So, who told you that it was easy to be a parent?”</p>

<p>Re post #85.</p>

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<li> That post is full of information about how YOU feel. Some stuff about how your son BEHAVES, but nothing about how your son FEELS. The middle school years are a very important time for social growth, not so very important for academics. (Yes, academics are important… but middle schoolers are going through a lot of other stuff related to hormones and growth, and the social-emotional stuff often dominates.)</li>
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<p>You need to take a step back, as your son what he THINKS, what he FEELS, what he WANTS. </p>

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<li> You do not need to get a diagnosis or evaluation related to dyslexia before proceeding. Dyslexia is just a label for a learning style you already can observe. It is not some game-changer. The main point is simply to be aware that FLEXIBILITY and a readiness to ACCOMMODATE to your son’s needs is important in a school. It sounds to me like the Catholic school would be the least accommodating, but that might be my personal preconceptions based on stereotypes.<br></li>
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<p>Dyslexia is not a disease and it is not a bright line, either/or type of thing. It is a term used to describe a specific learning pattern in which limitations or difficulties occur along a spectrum, from very mild to very severe. My mentioning the possibility is no more significant than if your son had the sniffles and I suggested that he might have allergies – it is something to check out but not an emergency. </p>

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<li> Because I am Jewish, the Jewish school sounds very attractive to me, and Paying3tuitions probably could be hired to do marketing for Jewish Day Schools, as she painted such an enticing picture. But for a non-Jewish kid from a non-Jewish family, it’s going to be a very weird experience, and he should not jump into that unless HE is intrigued and likes the idea. I do NOT think you have to worry about the other kids knowing he’s not Jewish – many of those kids are from interfaith families, and Jews are very accustomed to getting along with kids from other faith backgrounds, and are very comfortable with atheists and agnostics. (It’s the evangelical Christians that strike us the wrong way – we do not appreciate people telling us that we are going to go to hell if we don’t change our religion.) All your son has to do is to tell the other kids that he’s not Jewish, but that he & his parents chose the school because its has the best academics – and everyone will be satisfied. We Jews do not mind the “Jews are smart” stereotype – the school probably is one of the top schools academically - and no one is going to doubt that academics were an attraction.<br></li>
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<p>But it’s still going to be weird and unless your son is highly motivated, on his own, to attend – I’d pass on that. He is going to feel like the odd man out, even if all the students and teachers go to great lengths to welcome him – and it will only work if he’s gone in to the situation.</p>

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<li> Do not be afraid that lax academics at touchy-feely Waldorf is going to somehow cause your son’s brain to turn to mush. Being in a nurturing environment is not always a bad thing, especially for a creative, independent-minded kid. The question really isn’t whether the school will give him the ability to compete at math olympiad – it is whether it will provide the opportunity for him to explore and learn in areas of interest. You haven’t provided info about the secular school, but in theory Waldorf would offer the most flexibility. But again, you can’t go by labels.</li>
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<p>Here is your homework assignment: figure out which schools on the list you know you can afford, and then ask your son where he would like to start on Tuesday. I’d actually even leave the Lutheran school on the list – though I certainly would raise the whole evolution/creationism issue. (I’m assuming that, even at age 11, your son probably already has had some exposure to the these issues. My son was an expert on dinosaurs at age 3 – he later lost interest in paleontology, but certainly he would have understood that the evolutionary timeline is measured in hundreds of millions of years, well before middle school) </p>

<p>The point is – your son is the one who is going to have to live with the decision, go to school each morning, spend his day in class, deal with the expectations of the teachers and the social environment of the other kids. This is about him, not you. </p>

<p>No decision is irrevocable. If your son attends a chosen school for 2 weeks and it is not working out… you can get on the phone and call up school #2 on the list and ask if they still have a spot for him. They might, they might not-- but you can always ask. </p>

<p>So basically – my advice is – now is the time to pass the ball to your son and let him make the decision. If he has questions and asks your opinion, than answer his questions, but leave the ultimate decision to him. If the question he asks is “where do you think I should go” – then act like a psychiatrist and answer the question with a question. Your job at this point is to ensure that your son makes the call.</p>

<p>Wow…last two posts…polar opposites. (BTW, my kids would have chosen the one where they had the least work, the most fun, and the most days off.) I guess this is just different parenting styles. I think a middle school kid is just that…a kid. And, the OP is a genuinely concerned parent who has done/is doing her research.</p>

<p>I have to agree with Calmom in having this student be at least part of the decision and a significant part, along with adult guidance and advocating. Ellebud, I’d agree with you about the decision resting solely with the parents if this were selecting a nursery school or an elementary school, but this is a middle school. A child of that age should have significant input in such a decision (unless money is the factor or location, but that doesn’t seem to be the main issues here). </p>

<p>I understand you are saying that your middle school kids would have chosen the one where they had the least work, the most fun, and the most days off. All kids are different and so we have to know the kids we have. But I have to tell you, many kids this age are able to articulate valid reasons for one school or another, and what they want in their education. Perhaps the decision shouldn’t rest entirely with the kid but the kid should be a significant player in this decision making process. </p>

<p>Where we live, middle school is grades 7 and 8. My D2 entered her formal education early and so her transition to middle school (7th grade) was at age 11, the age of the OP’s son. As I wrote earlier, our elementary school accommodated the learning needs of both my kids, without our having to push for it. It was great. Our middle school is not so good in this way at all. It took a lot of advocating for both daughters in order to have some special learning plans put in place (this is not special needs, but the opposite end of the spectrum, yet we have no gifted programs here). </p>

<p>Our elementary school was also very concerned that the middle school was not going to be adequate for D and so a meeting was called whereby the elementary school principal (who knew our D well), her grade 5/6 teacher from the elementary school, her grade 7 teachers at the middle school, the middle school principal, my D’s guidance counselor for both middle and high school (it is one facility), and a rep from the State Dept. of Education, as well as ourselves (mom and dad) AND our 11 year old daughter attended in order to come up with accommodations in middle school to meet this child’s needs. My D actively advocated for what she craved in terms of challenges and some ideas of how to make that happen. </p>

<p>In fact, just as an example of how a child that age can indeed know what they want in an education…I will copy the opening paragraph of my child’s guidance counselor’s report/rec for college admissions, in which he starts with that day back when D was just 11 and in seventh grade:</p>

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<p>I share this ONLY because this made an impression on the guidance counselor years later when writing a rec for college and how even an 11-year-old can guide her own learning plans and knew what she needed to make that happen. I know that part of the reason he said “most intelligent in the room,” was only because some educators are of the notion that “we’ve never done that before,” and not as willing to make accommodations but with some advocates, including my D who really did advocate for her own learning needs, many things were put into place for her both that year and in subsequent years of MS and HS in a rural public school. </p>

<p>And so, yes, I believe, as does Calmom, that a kid this age IS able to make an informed decision as to what kind of educational setting would meet their needs. Yes, adults are part of that decision. But the child should play a significant role in that decision, in my view.</p>

<p>In terms of this coming week’s schedule, keep in mind that the Jewish school will certainly be closed on Thursday and Friday for Rosh Hashanah – it’s early this year. If you wanted to, those would be good days to try out another place.</p>

<p>As wonderful as the Jewish school sounds, I really wouldn’t discount the very strong possibility that your son will feel left out given all the time and focus that the other kids will be giving to their impending Bar and Bat Mitzvahs over the next few years.</p>

<p>As for Calmom’s advice, I agree that your son’s feelings should be an important factor. But I very strongly disagree that at his age, his should be the final decision.</p>

<p>Calmom- excellent post. You covered all points very well. From personal experience I too think middle school is a very important time in their development and even the most mature middle school students can have a tough time navigating all the emotional ups and downs.</p>

<p>Speaking from my experiences with my sons that went to Christian school K-8th, as parents we were able to teach our kids to be independent thinkers, weigh all the options, and make their own decisions about religion, especially creationism vs evolution. As parents we have so much influence on our kids and what they come to believe. We researched evolution and discussed the pros and cons @ home. My kids made up their own minds about their beliefs. To my knowledge they kept their opinions to themselves in middle school. </p>

<p>Good luck- I know it’s a tough choice @ times.</p>

<p>Jumping on and off quickly. Again, I appreciate everyone’s input.</p>

<p>My son is like Ellebud’s… least amount of work, most amount of fun. If he had his way, he’d quit all of his physical activities in order to play video games and watch TV. All of that building that he likes to does comes naturally. Make him do something that requires effort? Perfect example – I told him last night that we could maybe go somewhere special on Monday, for fun. But that he had to spend his Sunday reacquainting himself with his multiplication tables and get back into doing required reading. I was not feeling well today, and I realized at 4:00 PM that he had not done a darned thing. It made me feel very depressed, like I’m in for another year of having to tell him what he should do. I told him that this is middle school, this is getting old. And that now he’s going to have to devote his morning on Monday to refreshing. His attitude was “Well, I didn’t forget ALL of the times tables.” He’s still outside…</p>

<p>My son wants to be a scientist, but he has no idea what it requires to get there. He has not read that the US is woefully deficient compared to other countries. He won’t care now if he doesn’t get calculus in Senior year, but he will later.</p>

<p>To give an idea of what this school district is like – my daughter was the only child at the high school to make it into SUNY Geneseo, or any top college for that matter. When the time for her to leave was approaching, she was really scared to leave home. She wasn’t acting out or doing anything extreme, she was just emotional and fearful. So I went to the guidance office. The counselor said “Well, maybe she shouldn’t go then, and just go to the community college”. Where I am, this does not mean the college close by, this means the college that only awards an associates degree, has lax standards, and is populated by working adults. I was very glad this conversation was with me, and not my daughter. She did go off to college, and it was ok. She’s now a Junior. But she put me through hell getting there. Had to nag her to no end to study for the SAT, to pick a college, to write her essay, get recommendations. My husband was like “Hey, whatever! If she doesn’t want to put in the work to go to college, she can go work at Burger King!” But I couldn’t let her fear ruin her future. I knew that this was fear, and that once at college, she’d have to sink or swim on her own. So I put up with her tantrums. After she went to college, on a visit, she did tell me that Geneseo was the right place for her, and that “I know I was awful”. That’s ok. It’s over now.</p>

<p>Also with my daughter, I had gotten her an FM trainer in the early grades to deal with her auditory processing disability. Found out later that the school never put it on her. When she was a freshman, she complained to me about her handwriting and her difficulty in writing essays quickly. It is a part of her disability, and I became concerned that I should get a 504 plan for her in case this becomes an issue in college. Also some remediation for the handwriting. The school psychologist said that they weren’t going to do anything because her grades were “fine” at 89. They do not care if their help can make a child with an 89 be a 99. In my district, we’ve had 3 principals in 4 years, teachers angry because of their contracts, school board fights. It’s a wonder this district hasn’t imploded. </p>

<p>The valedictorian of my daughter’s class was brilliant. Not only was he gifted academically, but he was in the school’s chorus, band, and musicals. He won a top spot in a musical theater program at a local college. He dropped out in his first semester because nobody ever told him that he had to learn to dance! </p>

<p>At the public school, he gets along with kids, but there’s nobody like him here. I remember that he begged me to buy him a suit, and he went off to school smiling. He came home, vowing to never wear it again. The kids had laughed and said he was wearing a tuxedo. My son also saw me using sushi wrappers once to make a wrap and he asked me to send him to school with that for lunch. I did, and I don’t recall problems with that, but this gives you an idea of how he is. I am probably only one of 5 people living here that has beyond a Bachelor’s Degree, and most people do not even have that. I do not smoke or drink, but everyone here does. I rarely meet anyone in my neighborhood who shares my values. One time I told another mother about my son’s lifethreatening allergy to treenuts, and she said that she feels like telling such people to take a nap and get over their sniffles. When my son was only 8, the head of the PTA asked me why I don’t put my son in “boys” activities, and even after I said that he’s on an all-boys gymnastics team and that other countries reveal male dancers, she said that the other boys will think that he is weird and that “I will make my son gay”. My son was friends with her child, and it broke my heart, because her views would eventually poison her son’s. As will those of the other like-minded parents. If I could pack up and move, I would… So actually, on a social level, I think that my son would find many more like-minded peers at the private schools. </p>

<p>I’ve tried very hard to engage my son in this, talk to him about my concerns, talk to him about the strengths/weaknesses. My son physically visited each school with me. At every school, he was asked questions by the administrators, like “What questions do you have about middle school?” He had none. Hasn’t even thought about it. Here were his statements after visits:</p>

<p>1) Jewish day school – “He seemed nice. I don’t want to pray”. Later “I’d rather wear the hat than a uniform”.</p>

<p>2) Catholic school – “That nun was rude. She told you I don’t care’ when you were talking.” (I was talking so nervously that I didn’t notice, but he apparently did!"</p>

<p>3) Lutheran School – They were nice. Ok son, put in order what you liked best to least. Put them in order of nicest to least nice.</p>

<p>Again today, tried to engage him. “Just send me to the public school”. Son, do you understand that you are being offered an opportunity to get a better education here? “I don’t care”. </p>

<p>So this is about where I was with his sister 4 years ago…</p>

<p>In the meantime, I’ve been looking more at Waldorf, and am a big concerned about anthroposophy… belief in gnomes and reincaration?.. (sighing)</p>

<p>It sounds like your son didn’t give too much input but he indeed gave SOME. He said he didn’t really want to pray. Well, in a religious school, he’ll have to do that sort of thing! He also said he wanted to go to the public school. Please hear that. I still think you could explore options right at the public school in how to meet your child’s needs. </p>

<p>Ya know, my kids went to a public school where only 2/3’s go onto college. Very few go onto top colleges but a couple do. One of my kids went to an Ivy and one of my kids went to a top BFA in Musical Theater program which is highly competitive to get into (by the way, nobody at her high school would have known a thing about BFA in MT programs…you mention that nobody told that boy from your HS that he had to dance but really, this is a no brainer for anyone who remotely investigates colleges for MT and in fact, most require dance at the audition to be admitted, and anyone who knows anything about MT, knows you have to be able to sing, act, and dance…so I would not blame that on your HS…our HS didn’t even have a drama program and my D got into many top BFA in MT programs). </p>

<p>So, I understand your school is not great but I do believe that by advocating for your son, you can have accommodations put in place to address his needs. I would NOT overlook the public school option here, particularly as you are not religious yourselves and your son made a remark about praying and even seems to want to go to his public middle school. Keep in mind, too, that “better education” can also mean best fit and a religious school may not be the best fit in this case. Perhaps explore the private secular school.</p>

<p>I don’t understand why you are making this type of decision now. It’s Sep and school starts next week. I appreciate the fact that you are trying to do the right thing for your son, but this couldn’t and shouldn’t have come about in Aug. It’s not fair to your son.</p>

<p>But if they do make a change, I hope they decide before the first day of school and not go to the first day at three different schools this week as proposed, which is confusing to a child and no firm commitment to any school and no basis for a decision based on just ONE day attending each one.</p>