Am I ruined?

@tucsonmom Ole Miss and UA-Huntsville are Harvards compared to my college. I gladly would choose to go there ovter where I am at. I’m at a regional of a regional, if that makes any sense. There is no honors college. The professors do not have any interest in working with me. I’ve tried with almost everyone. There’s no much research that can be done for a freshman Humanities student.

@DadTwoGirls I am getting all straight A’s in upper level Sociology classes, without studying, as a Freshman. This isn’t impressive at all because the courses are easy as pie (class average on most exams are 89%). I’m not gaining anything out of being here. Boring as hell.

@Lindagaf I went to academic advisors. They didn’t have anything to say besides stem is graded hard and Sociology is easy. They suggested I transfer to sociology. Yes, I met with professors. They told me to do practice tests, but every test is made by a different professor and they don’t follow the same skeleton or quesion a similar breadth of knowledge. To do research or grade, you have to be on work study. There are other colleges in the same system, but I cannot afford to transfer. I have told my father this ever since September, but he doesn’t care. No career center.

I’ve tried to find research and the like. I can’t. I either get denied or told that what I seek doesn’t exist.

Well you’re gaining an undergraduate degree which will upgrade you a tier in terms of opportunity, salary, etc.

What’s a degree in Sociology going to get me? It’s worthless. I cannot get good enough grades in STEM for graduate school. Only thing I can get good grades in are degrees with no future.

I don’t have any friends here, my classmates all went to great schools, and I have made none here. I live on campus

You can work in HR methinks. If you’re studying the psychology of, and the function of human society, I think that’s pretty applicable to a work environment.

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/management/human-resources-managers.htm

And HR managers make good money, good benefits, and job outlook is good.

http://work.chron.com/listing-jobs-sociology-degree-29721.html

http://work.chron.com/job-sociology-degree-18117.html

@philbegas I should refine what I say. Sociology may have some jobs that you can get, but I’m not interested in working in those types of environments. Working in business is boring as can be and relies a lot on networking and soft skills, which I don’t have.

What kind of job do you want?

There’s no job that I can get that I also want. Maybe I need to start looking at the ones that I dislike the least, but that’s very subjective. I wanted to be a doctor or an economist. The days are done when those were possibilities.

Medical doctor? or economist?

I can’t do either. Those options have been removed. Medical school and the career are too high stress. Economics requires lots of math, which is graded hard here. I’ve already given up.

Law school is a distant third I took on a career aptitude test, but I lack the soft skills needed, as listed earlier in the thread. It is very expensive and a very saturated field.

Like others in this thread, I feel like you need to acknowledge that you’ve got some issues going on that prevent you from looking at this rationally. An undergraduate degree can always be a stepping stone to a graduate degree. Get the undergrad degree, work for a couple years to figure out what you want to do, and then you can get a graduate degree that helps point you more in the direction you want to be.

The more and more you tell yourself that you can’t do this or that, the more you’re going to believe it.

I don’t want a graduate degree in Sociology or a related field. I have zero interest in the subject material.

Why can’t you be an economist. An undergraduate degree in sociology could be coupled with a graduate degree in economics

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical-and-social-science/economists.htm

An economics degree is useful in many sectors, particularly if you go for a field called “behavioral economics” that is much more on the sociological side of it.

Paging @juillet for more useful advice?

I never said anything about a graduate sociology degree. I just said you can add a graduate degree in general. If you move away, work for a few years, save money, and then apply to schools once you’re 24 and you can be considered independent you could start to get your life moving in the diretion you want to.

I think it wouldn’t be a bad idea for you to leave college if you are that miserable, bored, and feeling you are getting nothing out of it. Go work, make some money, and see how things go. After working for a while, you may decide to go back - or you may not. College is not for everyone and there’s no shame in not going if it’s not for you.

I have a friend who never went, has ADD and chooses not to take any meds for it. I can’t see him ever being able to sit at a desk for any length of time whether it’s to study, write a paper, or work a desk job. Even if he could, I think college would have bored him to tears anyway, but his brilliance shines when it comes to electrical, plumbing, and remodeling homes. He can just look at a house, see his vision for it in his head, goes to town and makes it a reality, and does all the work himself. It blows me away, and he makes a great living doing it.

You may learn a trade and decide you love it, or maybe it’s something you just prefer as the lesser of evils for the time being because at least you are making money vs paying money for something that’s making you miserable.

However, I’d still finish out this year in college. It’s almost over. A few more weeks won’t kill you, and if you decide to go back, you’ll have more units under your belt and less time to complete your degree.

I’d also look into taking a leave of absence (LOA) vs. a full withdrawal. LOAs are withdrawals with a pre-approved readmission, and many colleges allow a student to take LOAs for a year and sometimes even two. You may never want to go back, but I see no logic in withdrawing immediately or slamming the door to the possibility of returning without reapplying if the college allows you to take LOAs for one to two years.

Best of luck to you.

Earlier, you said this:
"I can’t do either. Those options have been removed. Medical school and the career are too high stress. Economics requires lots of math, which is graded hard here. I’ve already given up.

Law school is a distant third I took on a career aptitude test, but I lack the soft skills needed, as listed earlier in the thread. It is very expensive and a very saturated field."

  1. The only reason why "those options have been removed" is because YOU removed them yourself. You were getting decent grades in chem & bio.
  2. Not every lawyer ends up a litigator trying cases in court. MOST lawyers actually don't do that at all. Just ask my sister and all of her lawyer friends.
  3. You're just listing out excuses. It's obvious that you don't want to go to college right now. So go ahead and withdraw. Do some searching and figure out what you want out of life and then go after it. But know this. The best things in life are the ones that you have to work hard for. But in the meantime, please don't attack people here who are trying to provide you with "food for thought" and suggestions.

Sometimes having to deal with paying your own bills and struggling to put a roof over your head while working low paying jobs has a way of moving individuals in a particular direction. Good luck to you!

You guys I think I know what type of college OP means. It’s not even as good as what many states call a community college. Professors are adjuncts or on 4-4 (and/or “on loan” from main campus or sent there by the main campus but they don’t stick around) and in any case they aren’t expected to do research because they’re saddled with so much teaching and student-related work. These schools are typically underfunded and serve as a stepping stone to attend a 4-year directional or even the flaghip. Some are different from this model - they’re set up that way because they very rural; they may have a couple excellent programs, especially with a focus to local needs, such as nursing for rural areas, agriculture…
(Look up UC Blue Ash, tOSU Lima, Mesabi Range College, UVA Wise, Potomac State College…)

I also know a student who, as a freshman, has completed almost all classes in her chosen STEM subjects. She’ll be transferring to a California Community College where they offer more classes in those subjects than her current 4-year university.

OP, if s/he wishes to attend grad school, should NOT graduate from this college - s/he should finish out the year as strong as possible, with the highest possible GPA, and request a LOA (leave of absence), complete all the paperwork etc. Then, go learn a trade or get a job and save enough money so that s/he can move to a different city or state with a decent college. Even if his/her high school stats won’t bring a full ride, they may still matter, especially after only one year of college and hopefully a high enough GPA.
If OP graduates from this school, s/he’ll be blocked from financial aid for a more valuable degree and will be stuck. I understand OP’s anger and despair because they’re backed into a corner. But it’s always possible to step aside and get out. Find the way out.

OP: go to the counselling center. You have a lot of anger to discuss.
Make sure to finish the semester strong.
Figure out what sounds better than staying at college, then figure out how to do it.
Then, take a leave of Absence and go do it.

Questions:
Why did your father want you to attend this college?
Do you live on campus or at home?
What trades appeal to you - or do you have any aptitude for IT work? (IT is in-demand and doesn’t require you to be cheerful and well-dressed, two aspects of business you don’t seem to relish :p).

@MYOS1634 Finally someone who understands! I don’t know the lexicon of this so it was hard to explain and people don’t want to believe me or maybe just feel like they need to knock me down for some reason. College is really focused on nursing and teaching as career choices. When their success stories were all about LPNs and middle school teachers, I knew something was wrong.
I don’t know anything about computers and don’t like them.
He liked my current college because his only experience with college was seeing gay parades and marijuana protests. That is what he told me.
I do not live at home.

So, he didn’t want you to see gay students and marijuana protests, so he had you attend a college where he was fairly confident not much was going on?

Okay, if you live on campus, you have a bit more freedom.
Look for the biography of any tenured or tenure-track professor, and look for one who graduated from a college (undergrad) or university (PHD) that’s on the top 100 of USNWR (national LACs, national universities) or top 5 regional. Try to talk to them, ask for advice.

Since you don’t like computers, that leaves trades. What trade are you interested in or could you tolerate long enough to save money and “get out”?

@IncidentalOrange , I have read here that law is a very impacted profession now…it’s very hard to get a job post-law-school if this is correct. You don’t like your major and don’t feel optimistic or well-suited to a related career. If you are on the Asperger’s/Autism spectrum I agree that it would be a challenging prospect…probably not using your strengths at all. I really think you should think about changing majors, regardless of how hard you think they are to get good grades in, and pursue what you like. Please talk to the professors in these areas (chem, econ) and tell them what your struggles are. Many profs (my husband is one of them) are more than willing to work with a student who reaches out for help and extra tutoring. Consider doing the econ degree even if it is “only” accounting. Even if it is a disappointment to you I still have a feeling that it could lead to better (and more satisfying) job prospects for you in the future than the road you are currently on. With the econ degree, you could possibly get into a more interesting graduate program…even if it means you have to take a few more “real” econ classes somewhere to get up to speed.

Do you know why your father insisted you go to this particular school, as opposed to the others that were also financially doable? Is the school closer to home, or have some other characteristics he likes? If you wrote a very well-composed letter to him, explaining what you hope to get out of college and why yo feel this particular school is not a good “fit” for you, do you think he will reconsider?

@mommyrocks, I know you are probably meaning to be helpful in a no-nonsense, take-no-BS way, but I did think your tone was pretty harsh. There are ways of saying things, but softening just a bit to give the benefit of the doubt, ad asking more questions before pronouncing judgements because we really DON’T know exactly where an OP is coming from, their state of mind, their personal struggles and history that are unknown. If your hunch is correct, that there is a depression component here, judgemental treatment (even from an online forum) can drive a person further underground and make it harder to ask for the kind of help they need. There are people who are pretty brilliant, but learning disabled, or troubled in some way and face frustrations that you and I know nothing about. If the OP is, in fact, on the spectrum, there are very real neurological differences in brain “wiring” that create challenges in negotiating a world designed around neurotypical functioning that are probably almost unimaginable to people not on the spectrum. It is true that neither you nor I, nor anyone on this forum can really help at any significant level with this…the OP needs specialized help…but I think we can try to walk kindly. Negativity in and of itself tends to be a characteristic of many on the spectrum…possibly because these folks struggle endlessly in a social world that makes little sense to them and have found so little success, or good outcomes, or empathetic support, despite often very high intelligence in other areas. I think there would be in intense frustration level in having high intellectual abilities in some ways yet so many VERY REAL roadblocks to being able to apply these abilities in the world. In that context I imagine the negativity would feel like the only realistic viewpoint, even if it does create an even more viscious cycle. I think it’s a little like someone very able-bodied telling someone in a wheelchair that if they’d just get up and stop being so pessimistic they could walk. Perhaps with lots of medical intervention, prosthesis and/or physical therapy it is possible, but not easy, not easy at all. Study of autism spectrum is in its infancy and there is so much that is yet unknown. But I do think the experience must be a little like Alice falling down the rabbit hole, trying to make sense of the world every day, and people ostracizing you for the very struggle; for the fact that you are not like them, or like their kids, who manage so well.

There are schools that are great for some and schools that are not perfect fits but at least good adequate for resiliant, adaptable students but some schools are just not good fits for some students. It’s true that savvy, on-the-ball kids can find amazing research opportunities…but lots of good people with potential are not savvy and need extra guidance, mentoring and step-by-step help. IMO, these people should be able to ask questions and not be shot down snarkily for not being perfect , or perfectly mature. It may be that OP would have similar problems wherever he/she went to school, but its possible he/she maybe would have had greater mentoring and the kinds of academic opportunities OP wants, elsewhere. Hard to say. But I still think CC should be a place where OP could come to grieve the loss a bit (I would have been upset if my parents had forced me to go to my least-favorite school, even for necessary reasons) and receive suggestions that are given truthfully, yes, but a little more gently than some I have read here. It’s true, we can’t solve OPs problems, and we can’t be therapists here. But maybe, a show of human warmth could model the kind of positivity we expect from OP, as well as offer a shot of courage and hope that might inspire the OP to seek the kind of substantial help in real life that COULD make a difference.

Off of my soapbox now.