American dentist kills iconic African lion for sport

Maybe its a trait of people who have certain small body parts. :slight_smile:

^^Which body parts? I wish my butt was a small body part. :smiley:

@Niquii77 and @GreatKid – I totally agree with you that the problems with lion killings in Zimbabwe (and wildlife hunting all over Africa) is far more complex than this one particular hunter. But let’s not kid ourselves: poaching and slaughter of big game exists BECAUSE THERE IS A MARKET FOR IT. Palmer represents a section of this market. If we strangulate it – through public education and massive fines/imprisonment – there will be that much less reason for African nations to tolerate its existence.

Yes, it’s a complex issue. But you have to start solving it somewhere.

And publicly shaming people who glorify the stalking and murder of rare wildlife by taking pictures of themselves half-naked with the animal’s carcass is not a bad place to start.

@GMTplus7 – I had the same association with Putin when I saw that photo!

The difference is that Putin would be posing bare-chested with a live big cat. Or riding on it.

Uhh, I’m not sure how to really respond to your post because I didn’t even know I was in the conversation. Shoot, I don’t even disagree with a few of your points, but ok. :slight_smile:

^^ Sorry, I may have misread your earlier posts. I’m glad we agree :slight_smile:

Ewww Donna

We are still left with the problem of protecting and preserving the animals. Where will they live? More animals require more range. Who will pay for the maintenance of their habitats? Will poor people keep lions and elephants as pets in large numbers? Why would they? They breed and raise animals now because there is money in it. Elephants are very destructive to human farms and habitats. Big cats kill people.

This sounds like a solution without a problem. There are thousands of acres of protected habitat. It doesn’t sound like they are busting at the seams. And natural preditory and survival hunts/kills with the species (non human species) should probably help to keep the numbers in check.There will also be no need to raise animals for the purpose of big game hunting.

CNN just announced that Cecil’s brother Jericho was ILLEGALLY killed today by a hunter. This was the brother that was protecting Cecil’s cubs. They are now concerned what may happen to the cubs. This whole situation makes me so sad and angry!!!

That is horrible news, Ristosmom.

Was just listening to CNN and an expert in the field. This is from memory so may not be 100% correct. The gist of it was that Jericho was protecting Cecil’s cubs, but with his death, the cubs will most likely be killed. When the cubs stop nursing the males begin to approach the mom for purposes of mating and filling the pride with this new male’s offspring, while also doing away with the other, now deceased male’s, offspring.

Personally, I would like to see the law protecting these lions. Animal rights ā€œactivistsā€ are calling this act ā€œillegalā€ when they have yet to prove they had sanctuary, etc.

The fact that there were two separate hunters in two separate months shows that maybe it isn’t the hunters that are responsible, but the people running these safaris.

There is another report: Jericho was not killed.

Do not know which report is correct.

CNN now saying there is conflicting information as to whether Jericho is alive or dead.

crossposted. Some reports say that the GPS on his collar is still showing movement. Well, that could mean several things, but we shall wait and see and hope.

The following is the other, conflicting report:

Brother of Zimbabwe’s lion Cecil appears alive and well: researcher
By MacDonald Dzirutwe
HARARE | Sat Aug 1, 2015 4:02pm EDT
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HARARE (Reuters) - The brother of Cecil, the lion killed in Zimbabwe by an American hunter last month, is not dead, a researcher monitoring the pride told Reuters, contradicting media reports that Jericho had been killed.

ā€œHe looks alive and well to me as far as I can tell,ā€ said Brent Stapelkamp, field researcher for the Hwange Lion Research Project which is monitoring the lion with a GPS tag.

A group called the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force posted on its Facebook page that Jericho had been killed at 4 p.m. on Saturday, a report picked up by some Western news media that was rapidly spread on Twitter.

That generated a furious reaction on the social networking site where animal lovers had already been expressing their fury at the killing on July 1 of Cecil, a rare black-maned lion that was a familiar sight at Zimbabwe’s Hwange National Park.

Stapelkamp said readings from Jericho’s GPS tag indicated he was moving around as usual and appeared to be with a female.

ā€œWhen I heard that report, I had a look on the computer and his movements look regular. He sent a GPS point from his collar from 8:06 p.m. (02:06 p.m. EDT). Everything looks fine,ā€ Stapelkamp told Reuters.

Earlier on Saturday, Zimbabwe’s parks authority imposed an indefinite ban on big game hunting outside the national park from which Cecil was lured before being killed on July 1.

A source at the parks agency told Reuters a second lion had been killed illegally by a foreign hunter in Zimbabwe on July 3. That has not been confirmed by officials.

(Reporting by MacDonald Dzirutwe; Writing by Robin Pomeroy; Editing by Jon Boyle)

Wonder if some idiot reporter just saw Jericho taking a nap, and assumed that he must have been shot by a poacher.

He should have flown a drone over Jericho to take a picture :wink:

Yeah, if he was a smart reporter, for sure. You’d think they’d get pretty handy with the drones, by now.