An ugly divorce? Or murder-suicide? Scotland

<p>Also, am curious as to how Laird James McCullen Destro XXIV or A.K.A. Destro will vote. :D</p>

<p>And it seems Scotland’s voters have rejected independence from Britain:</p>

<p><a href=“Scotland Rejects Independence From United Kingdom - The New York Times”>http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/19/world/europe/scotland-independence-vote.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>I find it very sad. But I hope it’s still a win for Scotland in that Cameron holds true to his promise to give the Scottish Parliament more power and that they stop using the country as their nuclear dumping ground.</p>

<p>I’m surprised - I thought the 16 year olds would all vote Yes. I think No is the wiser choice though.</p>

<p>I’m very impressed at the incredible turn out in most areas. The choice has been made by the only people who’s opinion really matters. Now I hope Scotland can Unite and not be divided by bitterness. It may take a while.</p>

<p>I think the mistake was to let 16 and 17 years old decide. Cameron probably has to go the next election. </p>

<p>As a non-Scot, I can understand why they voted against it at this point in history, but I am saddened by headlines saying they voted “against independence.” I think it would probably be more accurate to say that they voted against huge economic uncertainty.</p>

<p>Too bad they didn’t get to vote on the subject in 1745. Or earlier. :(</p>

<p>If the YES camp had done its Front-End Engineering homework, then they’d probably be celebrating a victory today.</p>

<p>Front End Engineering
<a href=“Front-end engineering - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front-end_engineering&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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Front-End Engineering (FEE)…is an engineering design approach used to control project expenses and thoroughly plan a project before a fix bid quote is submitted…</p>

<p>Front-End Engineering focuses on technical requirements and identifying main costs for a proposed project. It is used to establish a price for the execution phase of the project and evaluate potential risks.</p>

<p>I thought the NO camp was a shy and quiet type and it was a correct prediction but i didn’t want to jinx it making a prediction here.
But despite no front end engineering but the real question is would Scottland be better without England. From what my understanding is that it’s a smaller population compare to England.
But this whole referendum drove an edge between Scottish and English people. I can see that with my husband. His love for Scottland is almost dimished to nearly zero. </p>

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<p>It’s really a bit of a problem when those calling for independence showed they didn’t seriously think through economic/fiscal policies…especially which national currency they’ll use and the pros/cons of each. </p>

<p>It’s not very reassuring if the most sound options are to shackle one’s fiscal policies to London’s by sticking with the Pound or to Washington DC’s by proposing to use the US dollar as one pro-independence supporter commenter proposed in an online reply to an article. </p>

<p>Think of all those who died for Scottish independence over the centuries. Maybe I’m just a hopeless romantic. It is quite likely that the only reason that Ireland managed to regain independence and Scotland and Wales have not is the island factor.</p>

<p>The Welsh want independence less than the Scots.</p>

<p>Dr Google</p>

<p>I don’t think any Scot loves Scotland any less. ( note one t) </p>

<p>The subjugation of the Welsh predates that of the Scots.</p>

<p>Sally, but the English who loved Scotland before may no longer love it as much. My husband loved Scotland, had a Scottish girlfriend and gave our first daughter a Scottish name. I watched him sweat this hole week.</p>

<p>According to my husband, Scotland wanted to join England, unlike Ireland. Not according to wikipedia
<a href=“History of Scotland - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Scotland&lt;/a&gt;

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<p>Does anyone think a few votes were swung by the recent announcement of the Cambridges’ pregnancy? Obviously, it’s irrelevant, but Americans vote all the time based on irrelevant, irrational, emotional factors.</p>

<p>As I have already posted, the referendum had NOTHING to do with the royal family. Had there been a yes vote, the Queen of England would still be the Queen of Scotland as well. Just like she is queen of a whole load of other countries such as Canada. This would be the same situation as the James the 6th and 1st discussed above. 1 monarch, 2 countries. Australia has had several referendums in the past on rejecting the monarchy (becoming a republic) but it’s always ended as a narrow no. Feel free to Google this if you don’t believe me still.</p>

<p>I think most people in the rest of the UK are happy it’s a no result because otherwise we would probabl have been paying for the separation for the rest of our natural lives .</p>

<p>Interestingly it appears that the 16-17 years olds overwhelmingly voted yes. But older people, who have effectively been paying into the union for their whole lives in taxes and savings etc, voted mostly no result. So are a whole generation going to grow up ardent nationalists or become like their elders?</p>

<p>I don’t think there is a massive rift with England. This has caused problems within Scotland. Alex Salmond actually gave a great speech on accepting the result about reconciliation between the yes and no sides. This is what is needed now.</p>

<p>I still do not understand why Northern Ireland is part of the UK. Could Northern Ireland have a vote and leave the UK? Would England let Northern Ireland leave the UK as it would have let Scotland leave if the vote had been “yes”?</p>

<p>This link helped me visualize the differences between the UK and Britain and the British Isles. </p>

<p><a href=“The difference between UK, Great Britain and the British Isles | Blog | Ordnance Survey”>http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2011/08/whats-the-difference-between-uk-britain-and-british-isles/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;