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<p>These are not “sweet face” pics. Sorry, but how many middle age men take pictures of themselves IN A MIRROR WITH THEIR CELLPHONE, HOLDING THEIR PACKAGE, WITH OR WITHOUT A TOWEL OR SHORTS ON and send them to women who are not their wives? And who takes innocent pics of even their face with their cell in a gym mirror or bathroom mirror? REALLY NOW.</p>
<p>This is just stupid, silly, and very immature. I would expect this of a teenager.</p>
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<p>IMO, some of these men who people believe are looking for a trophy gal, are not exactly trophy guys.</p>
<p>Ewwww!!! Most local gyms prohibit usage of cell phones in the locker rooms.</p>
<p>You would think that the congressional locker rooms/gym would have such a rule!</p>
<p>*What was the point of using the adjective “hefty” in decribing Elizabeth Edwards if one of his points wasn’t that her being overweight was somehow a reason for the infidelity? And including the decription of Al Gore unable to put his arms around Tipper?
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<p>In his “hefty quote” he was saying that J was portraying himself as a man who sees a woman for what she is on the inside to make himself look “pro-woman” when in reality, he was cheating with a younger , more “trophy-like” woman.</p>
<p>The point that Arnold cheated with a dumpier looking woman is really more the exception than the rule. When these famous guys are cheating…they are more often cheating with younger and more youthful-looking women…which often means thinner, cuter, etc. As a matter of fact, the added shocking point was that the housekeeper was rather dumpy looking. But, then, I don’t think he was being seen in public with her on his arm. (and, yes, great-looking wives have cheating H’s, too…no argument there.)</p>
<p>*I don’t think cheating husbands is all about finding a slimmer, younger, prettier sex partner and it has more to do with other issues. *</p>
<p>I think it’s the trophy feeling. They don’t feel that great about themselves, so they enjoy how they feel being with someone who others are going to think is great looking. That’s the point of the arm-candy.</p>
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<p>Uh, I don’t think this is true, maybe in some subset but definitely not as a rule. People talk about Elizabeth Edwards weight, well, IMO she was still a lot better looking than Rielle Hunter or whatever her name was. ESPN sportscaster and Mets GM Steve Phillips is another extreme example where it wasn’t true. Someone already mentioned Tiger Woods and Arnold. Spitzer is another example–his wife is/was very good-looking (don’t know if they got divorced). I suppose someone could get Rachel Maddow’s graph of politicians’ infidelity and run down all the names on there to compare their wives and mistresses.</p>
<p>“The point that Arnold cheated with a dumpier looking woman is really more the exception than the rule.”</p>
<p>It might help to make a distinction between the anything-with-a-pulse guys like Arnold, Clinton, and Weiner, and the more-focused cheaters like Gingrich, Edwards, and Sanford. The former, because of the sheer numbers and their less discriminating tastes, are going to have more outliers.</p>
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<p>Exactly…why introduce their weight in the dialogue??</p>
<p>And Schmaltz went on to say sarcastically:</p>
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<p>Thus driving that point home once again.</p>
<p>I maintain this was insulting to many women and the fact remains that many cheating husbands have pretty, slim, and young looking wives and many non-cheating husbands have wives who are middle age and not slim. Further, some of the mistresses in cheating relationships are not beautiful. Men cheat for other reasons. Again, this thread is about Anthony Weiner. He has a pretty, slim, young wife. For some men, no matter the beauty, warmth, sexiness, intelligence, kindness, etc. of their wives, they will still cheat. </p>
<p>On another note, while I don’t wish to defend Weiner (nothing defensible there!), I agree with DonnaL and don’t see the need for uproar in the use of the Congressional gym as being about using government resources because that is the setting where he took his egotistical photos to share with women.</p>
<p>"What was the point of using the adjective “hefty” in decribing Elizabeth Edwards if one of his points wasn’t that her being overweight was somehow a reason for the infidelity? "</p>
<p>People often see what they want to see. Every guy knows a superficial preening ladies’ man like Edwards or Clinton, and knows that such guys aren’t delighted to be outweighed by their wives. When I saw Edwards celebrating his nomination by embracing Elizabeth all lovey-dovey, every B.S. alarm in my body went off. I don’t know many women who had the same reaction to that scene.</p>
<p>I don’t think for a minute that being married to Megan Fox would have slowed down any of these cheating husbands, however. But the key to this discussion is hypocrisy, and post #497 nailed it when mom2collegekids said that Edwards seemed to flaunt loving his large wife to show just what a great non-superficial guy he was, when in fact the reality was the opposite.</p>
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<p>That is truly sad that you think that way. While I understand an ideal image of a slim and gorgeous wife, many many men look beyond that surface and adore and feel passion about their wives who do not look like models. The way you call it BS for a man to embrace his “hefty” wife in a loving manner, when his wife is not young and thin, rather turns my stomach. Many men marry wives who are not thin on their wedding day when young either and love them to bits and find them sexy and attractive and most of all, feel very lovey dovey toward them in a GENUINE (and not BS) fashion. I hope and pray your wife never gains any weight or ages.</p>
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The point that Arnold cheated with a dumpier looking woman is really more the exception than the rule. When these famous guys are cheating…they are more often cheating with younger and more youthful-looking women…which often means thinner, cuter, etc </p>
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<p>Uh, I don’t think this is true, maybe in some subset but definitely not as a rule. People talk about Elizabeth Edwards weight, well, IMO she was still a lot better looking than Rielle Hunter or whatever her name was. ESPN sportscaster and Mets GM Steve Phillips is another extreme example where it wasn’t true. Someone already mentioned Tiger Woods and Arnold. Spitzer is another example–his wife is/was very good-looking (don’t know if they got divorced). I suppose someone could get Rachel Maddow’s graph of politicians’ infidelity and run down all the names on there to compare their wives and mistresses. *</p>
<p>I probably didn’t word that right in my post.</p>
<p>I didn’t mean to say that when these celebs cheat that they are cheating with women that are better looking than their wives (altho that happens, too).</p>
<p>I meant that when celebrity men cheat, they are typically cheating with good looking women (even if their wives are beautiful). My point was that Arnold was one of the exceptions…largely because this gal was in him home and she was never his “arm candy.”</p>
<p>The Arnold situation reminds me of when I was in college and I worked in a restaurant. The manager was this single 30 year old, very handsome, and had his share of pretty girlfriends. We were all shocked when one of the dumpy waitresses turned up pregnant with his baby…while he also had a pretty girlfriend. He was rather embarrassed by the whole thing because to him (the jerk), this waitress was just someone to have a quickie with in the backroom or wherever. He had never been seen in public with her…as he had with his current and other arm-candy gals. </p>
<p>Certainly, Maria is amazing in so many ways that for Arnold to have cheated on her is just ridiculous…and is really about his inability to control his pecker.</p>
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<p>So they prefer to be outweighed by their mistresses? Monica Lewinsky was bigger than Hillary. Rielle may have been thinner than Elizabeth Edwards, but her face was not attractive at all.</p>
<p>I think your model is flawed.</p>
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<p>You really couldn’t tell from the tone of my post that I was joking when I made that comment? What with my reference to his gleaming chest? And to his devoted fans? And the use of Yiddish in the first place? Wow. I didn’t think I was being all that subtle. But I assure you that I don’t think his face is particularly sweet either!</p>
<p>So please get off your soapbox and stop shouting. It’s rude.</p>
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<p>Camilla Parker-Bowles vs. Princess Di</p>
<p>How do you explain that one?</p>
<p>“Camilla Parker-Bowles”</p>
<p>The exception that proves the rule…EVERYBODY was shaking his/her head over that one. By the way, Camilla and Charles have a long historical connection…her female ancestor was the concubine of his male ancestor…they were practically bred for each other.</p>
<p>So, powerful men cheat with women who are better looking than their wives… except when they don’t. They cheat with good-looking women… except when they don’t.</p>
<p>Seems like a lot of powerful men cheat, period.</p>
<p>“Monica Lewinsky was bigger than Hillary.”</p>
<p>See post 488. Clinton and especially Arnold have had infinite women, and don’t seem to be very particular. Still, the ones that don’t fit the usual younger/slimmer model are very very rare.</p>
<p>Cardinal Fang is right about powerful men seeming to enjoy messing around. I think when the truth comes out on Arnold, the body count is going to be in the hundreds. His housekeeper will be in the 1st percentile of appearance, but in the 99th percentile of being convenient.</p>
<p>Cardinal Fang apparently thinks there is no pattern of preferring younger/slimmer women, and I disagree (make a list of Clinton’s mistresses…how many are older or heavier than Hillary? One). </p>
<p>But the key aspect of this discussion, once again, is whether the guys who try to make political hay out of being nuts about their semi-attractive wives are being especially hypocritical when it comes out that they have a slim young gal on the side…and that this hypocrisy is comparable to the family values guys who also have a roving eye.</p>
<p>Yes…I would say that most celebrity men are cheating with good looking women (not 100%…but mostly).</p>
<p>The point isn’t whether their wives are or aren’t better looking. the fact is that most of these men are getting some kind of extra thrill (not just the sex) from being with pretty women (even if their wives are lookers, too.). </p>
<p>And, yes, Camilla proves the rule. If she weren’t an outlier, then people wouldn’t be shaking their heads. Same with the Arnold housekeeper…an outlier. </p>
<p>And…middle-aged men do flirt unbelievably with younger women. Don’t we have memories??? How many of us (when we were in our younger years) had middle aged male co-workers fawning around us? I can remember a few times being cornered by some 40-something guy in the breakroom with some “come on.” And…omg…any Friday Night Happy Hour really brought out the middle-age wolves. Nothing threatening of course…but some with crazy line that the moron thought we would be impressed with.</p>