Anthony Weiner

[MD_Mom_1]

<p>I started a new thread with this article this morning, but perhaps it fits here just as well. Weiner is mentioned as are others. It was in the Baltimore Sun this morning.</p>

<p>[Leonard</a> Pitts: Men behaving badly — same sad story, once again - baltimoresun.com](<a href=“http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-pitts-20110610,0,2425989.story]Leonard”>http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-pitts-20110610,0,2425989.story)</p>

[limabeans]

<p>What is the common thread of all these guys (aside from being politics)? Kwame Kilpatrick; Jesse Jackson; James McGreevey; Ted Haggard; Gary Condit; Mark Sanford; John Edwards; Bill Clinton; Newt Gingrich; Rudy Giuliani; Eliot Spitzer; Antonio Villaraigosa; Arnold Schwarzenegger; James West; Larry Craig; David Vitter; John Ensign. And now Anthony Weiner… they got caught. It was just a matter of time.</p>

<p>They didn’t plan to get caught, but they messed up and somebody noticed. I think the stupidest one of all is Weiner, because he took the photos, he sent them to women who didn’t initiate a sexual relationship, and then he lied about this. I wonder how many other men have been smarter by not getting caught.</p>

<p>Maybe women cheat, but they’re too smart to get caught.</p>

[Cardinal_Fang]

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And, yes, Camilla proves the rule. If she weren’t an outlier, then people wouldn’t be shaking their heads. Same with the Arnold housekeeper…an outlier.

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<p>And Rielle Hunter, who is way less attractive than Elizabeth Edwards was. And whoever Halle Berry’s husband was cheating with, who pretty much has to be less beautiful than she is. Some guys just want variety. They can cheat, so they do cheat.</p>

[mom2collegekids]

<p>*Maybe women cheat, but they’re too smart to get caught. *</p>

<p>I’m sure that some of political women cheat…but probably many of them are just toooooo busy to do so.</p>

<p>*And Rielle Hunter, who is way less attractive than Elizabeth Edwards was. And whoever Halle Berry’s husband was cheating with, who pretty much has to be less beautiful than she is. Some guys just want variety. They can cheat, so they do cheat. *</p>

<p>Again…the comparison shouldn’t be to the wife. Men with pretty wives cheat as well. The point is that when celebs cheat…they usually cheat with pretty gals. </p>

<p>As for Rielle’s looks…I never thought she was that great looking…but I think she did throw herself at J.E.</p>

<p>And…if I remember correctly…during the actual Lewinsky/Clinton affair, she wasn’t heavy. She was heavy later when the news about it became public…but I think when it was going on, she was much thinner.</p>

[poetgrl]

<p>Was there ever a better looking guy or more attractive “star” than Paul Newman? No. He didn’t cheat. Jon bon Jovi, who maybe has the best hair in rock-n-roll, never cheated and married his high school sweetheart. Some guys cheat and some guys don’t.</p>

<p>Some women cheat and some don’t. </p>

<p>What is disturbing about Weiner is not that he might have “cheated” on his wife, but that he acts like an escalating sexual offender. Right down to the fact that he was attempting to interest a 17 year old in his sex talk games. There’s nothing good old fashioned cheating about what Weiner was doing. It was the nature of the “risks” he was taking, the exhibitionism, the imposing his nakedness with no real human interaction. </p>

<p>That’s sex offender behavior, not having an affair.</p>

<p>ETA: if you are trying to convince me that Weiner was sending out HIS photographs because the women were "thinner or younger’ than his wife of all of 8 months? No dice. He was interested in getting them to look at HIM. Not vice versa.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.newsweek.com/2008/09/24/how-to-keep-him-from-cheating.html[/url]”>http://www.newsweek.com/2008/09/24/how-to-keep-him-from-cheating.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>from the article:</p>

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I think most people ascribe to the theory that men cheat for sex. Women are being told that unless they are unbelievable sexy and have a Ph.D. in prostitution education then the husband is going to cheat. But when the results came in [from my study] only 8 percent of cheaters said that sexual dissatisfaction was a primary contributor [in cheating] and only 12 percent said the mistress was better looking or in better shape than their wives. It really started to show a completely different pattern than what most expect. In fact, the majority—48 percent—said that the cheating was about an emotional disconnection.

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[qdogpa]

<p>Bon jovi left his then girlfriend for,who later became his wife, for Diane Lane…it was an affair,but Jon was not married,but in a relationship</p>

[teriwtt]

<p>An interesting article that addresses an issue that came up earlier in this thread:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/12/weekinreview/12women.html?_r=4&hp[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/12/weekinreview/12women.html?_r=4&hp&lt;/a&gt;

WASHINGTON — There was a collective rolling of the eyes and a distinct sense of “Here we go again” among the women of the House of Representatives last week when yet another male politician, Representative Anthony D. Weiner, confessed his “terrible mistakes” and declared himself “deeply sorry for the pain” he had caused in sexual escapades so adolescent as to almost seem laughable.</p>

<p>“I’m telling you,” said Representative Candice Miller, a Michigan Republican, “every time one of these sex scandals goes, we just look at each other, like, ‘What is it with these guys? Don’t they think they’re going to get caught?’ ”</p>

<p>Ms. Miller’s question raises an intriguing point: Female politicians rarely get caught up in sex scandals. Women in elective office have not, for instance, blubbered about Argentine soul mates (see: Sanford, Mark); been captured on federal wiretaps arranging to meet high-priced call girls (Spitzer, Eliot); resigned in disgrace after their parents paid $96,000 to a paramour’s spouse (Ensign, John) or, as in the case of Mr. Weiner, blasted lewd self-portraits into cyberspace.

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[Mezzo_sMama]

<p>It seems to be about men thinking that their word is worth more than that of any woman in any situation. They aren’t sorry they did something wrong, but they are very sorry that they got caught…</p>

[busdriver11]

<p>There is no telling which celebrity or politician is cheating or not. You have no idea. They may merely have an arrangement with their wife, or are more careful about it. Unless you are personally very close to them, you really have no idea whatsoever.</p>

<p>Some of these men seem to cheat purely because of ego. Perhaps they’ve been married for a long time, and their wife is not nearly as impressed with them as some other new woman (reguardless of looks). No fault of the wife, she’d be a moron after twenty years to be worshipping every little thing he does, but the new chick might think he’s just so amazing, and that is what they need, the adulation.</p>

<p>It is a problem when the husband is gorgeous, and the wife has become rather dumpty. It is absolutely unfair that women have to work way harder to keep their weight and looks then men do. But as they say, men are more visual than women. If the man has aged in the same way as his wife, no problem, but it does seem to be an issue when there is a serious mismatch in looks…much as I hate to admit it, as my husband is still really good looking.</p>

[VeryHappy]

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It is a problem when the husband is gorgeous, and the wife has become rather dumpty.

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<p>I think about this with John Edwards. He is very handsome, and she was beautiful, but she got heavy through the middle, and then she had serious treatment for her cancer. I understand his looking around, but I don’t understand his actions. At all.</p>

[NYMomof2]

<p>I don’t find JE attractive at all, and I never did. He may be handsome, but I always found him repulsive. The best thing about him was his wife, and I thought there must be something good in him if she believed in him. Now, of course, we know that it was all a sham.</p>

<p>EE remained attractive despite the weight gain and cancer treatment. Much of it was her warmth. Did anyone else notice how male news commentators were clearly besotted with her?</p>

[NYMomof2]

<p>It’s clear that Weiner won’t quit. He is thinking, a few weeks ago everyone was out for Arnold’s blood, and now nothing is heard about him. He thinks that his scandal will be dropped when the next big news hits. Polls still show his constituents in favor of his remaining in office. He has no other way to earn a living. He would probably even be re-elected. The only way he will be forced out will be if his district disappears.</p>

[blankmind]

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What is disturbing about Weiner is not that he might have “cheated” on his wife, but that he acts like an escalating sexual offender. Right down to the fact that he was attempting to interest a 17 year old in his sex talk games. There’s nothing good old fashioned cheating about what Weiner was doing. It was the nature of the “risks” he was taking, the exhibitionism, the imposing his nakedness with no real human interaction.

This is why this story is different, and why Weiner is different, and why he should be forced out of office. He is not just doing what all these other politicians have done, he is breaking new ground. We could basically produce a new video: Politicians Gone Wild, with Weiner in the starring role. Hmm, maybe I’ve finally found that next great idea…it worked for Snoop Dog…</p>

[Kajon]

<p>I don’t think John Edwards cheated because his wife’s illness resulted in some physical changes to her body. I think he cheated because the attention was no longer on HIM. What a slime ball.</p>

[Hanna]

<p>“How many of us (when we were in our younger years) had middle aged male co-workers fawning around us? I can remember a few times being cornered by some 40-something guy in the breakroom with some “come on.””</p>

<p>I’m within spitting distance of middle age now, and I’m getting this from guys who are retirement age. Once a jerk, always a jerk.</p>

[MD_Mom_1]

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I don’t think John Edwards cheated because his wife’s illness resulted in some physical changes to her body. I think he cheated because the attention was no longer on HIM. What a slime ball.

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<p>I think John Edwards cheated when he cheated because he thought his wife was going to die quickly and would never find out what he did. She fooled him by living a while…</p>

<p>I agree he is a slime ball.</p>

[zoosermom]

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Polls still show his constituents in favor of his remaining in office

Did you see that there was a demonstration by his constituents yesterday demanding that he resign?</p>

[NYMomof2]

<p>No, I didn’t hear about the demonstration. I imagine that the contacts with the 17-yo, whom he’d met and knew to be a HS student, changed some people’s minds. I find him so creepy; the narcissistic photographing of himself, alone, raises red flags for me. I can understand (although I don’t condone) a married man falling head over heels for another woman, a la Sanford. This is within what I consider normal human behavior. Weiner’s behavior seems sick to me. </p>

<p>And I will say that Weiner was a hero to me before this. I loved the way he stood up for things that I believed in. It’s a big loss.</p>

[VeryHappy]

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How many of us (when we were in our younger years) had middle aged male co-workers fawning around us?

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<p>One of the nicest things anyone ever said to me, from a 40-something guy, in front of other people: “[My name], I don’t fool around. But if I did, I’d fool around with you.”</p>

<p>I just laughed, as did the other people present.</p>

[HImom]

<p>Actually, in this case, I think AW’s wife looks more attractive than AW (at least in their wedding photo). I think it has more to do with maturity (or lack thereof) and egos.</p>