<p>Im a junior but i was just wondering what some stats were of some minorities if there are any on here</p>
<p>wow man u are really anxious lol</p>
<p>yes i am…</p>
<p>jaw, you might find these data helpful: </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.ceousa.org/pdfs/VAS[/url]”>http://www.ceousa.org/pdfs/VAS</a> Report.pdf</p>
<p>link doesnt work</p>
<p><a href=“http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:ugpIPUBL1UoJ:www.ceousa.org/pdfs/VAS%2520Report.pdf+uva+public+policy&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=7[/url]”>http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:ugpIPUBL1UoJ:www.ceousa.org/pdfs/VAS%2520Report.pdf+uva+public+policy&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=7</a></p>
<p>try that.</p>
<p>cool thanx</p>
<p>just warning you…don’t get stat crazy…colleges look at whole package…i know it from experience</p>
<p>Never mind, here’s a better link.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.nas.org/reports/foi/AA_at_3Us.pdf[/url]”>http://www.nas.org/reports/foi/AA_at_3Us.pdf</a></p>
<p>Of course you can’t go wild with stats, dayobball, but they do mean something. And, as the data in that link show, stats mean a <em>lot</em> at UVA when it comes to admitting certain URMs.</p>
<p>of course they mean something, but people who obsess over them tend to miss the point of the application</p>
<p>my scores werent great</p>
<p>yet i got likely from duke
full scholarship to brandies
tannder dean scholar at cornell
chernaul scholar at tufts</p>
<p>and they said they were impressed with my APPLICATION, ie scores and alot of other things</p>
<p>LOL, of course they said they were impressed with the application. Do you think they’re write you a letter saying that they loved your SAT score? I’m sure you had a great application and everything, but URM status means a LOT to universities. Take a look a look at the data.</p>
<p>i agree with you partly, but i still think you and alot others are missing the point of an application</p>
<p>No, I’m not missing the point of anything. The application compiles data about the applicant for the admissions committee to look at for (maybe) a half hour and then pass judgement on. The most important pieces of data are the grades, rank, and test scores. Then come essays, ECs, etc. Of course, athletes, legacies, URMs, and VIPs come under different consideration, but that’s a different story.</p>
<p>lol how do you know grades, essays, and test scores come first?</p>
<p>it depends on the college bro, admissions standards vary</p>
<p>and even at top colleges, there are people getting in with exceptionaly low test scores</p>
<p>i mean, have ur own opinion, but i have the credentials to at least back up my statement</p>
<p>i didnt want to cause an arguement over this</p>
<p>dayobball, it makes perfect sense that grades, test scores, and rank would be most important. Colleges, after all, are academic institutions. And of course what is most valued in the application varies college; different colleges have different missions and seek different students. There are people at top colleges getting in with low scores, but unless they are athletes, URMs, athletes, etc, they face EXCEEDINGLY low odds. You can’t dispute that. My “opinion” is based on statistics covering entire populations of applicants, not your anecdotal experience. Use your head.</p>
<p>There’s no argument, jaw. dayobball has just chosen to show an irrational streak.</p>
<p>“and they said they were impressed with my APPLICATION, ie scores and alot of other things”</p>
<p>What? So on the other hand you think they’d send you a letter saying “We are impressed by the fact that you’re black/hispanic/native american”?</p>
<p>i’m hispanic and asian and a national hispanic scholar and my good PSAT score (213 i know it’s not great) got me a lot of attention from colleges during my junior year, like handwritten cards and application fee waivers and personal letters from students from places like northwestern and michigan and even harvard and yale. admissions is a different story; just because they show a lot of interest doesn’t mean you’ll get in. my SAT score is pretty good (2140 with 700v 700m 740w) and i do debate nationally (and i was ranked in the top 50), so that got me more attention. being a minority will help you, but it won’t make up for a poor gpa and/or a poor SAT/ACT score. often times there are kids on CC who get into great schools with low gpa’s and SAT scores, but when looking at their stats wholistically, they have something special to offer to the school. that is, after all, the ultimate reason why schools admit students.</p>
<p>and yeah, i’m waiting for acceptances and UVa is clearly one of them haha</p>
<p>“but it won’t make up for a poor gpa and/or a poor SAT/ACT score.” </p>
<p>The link I posted contradicts this.</p>
<p>“often times there are kids on CC who get into great schools with low gpa’s and SAT scores, but when looking at their stats wholistically, they have something special to offer to the school.”</p>
<p>Sure, but this is only a small, small number of applicants. The rest have great ECs and essays AND great academic numbers. You wouldn’t want me to believe that every URM has ECs significant enough to warrant admission, despite lower numbers, would you? All I’ve pointed out is that URM status is extremely beneficial to applicants in general.</p>
<p>BTW, it’s “holistically,” not “wholistically.”</p>